Wade Dupont Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Yeah, sorry. It's been discussed lots of times, so I didn't clarify. The coaches feel very strongly about the principle of an "all-in" event, so they want to count as many schools as possible toward classification. Also, 3 at sectional is the cutoff the IHSAA uses for counting sectional scores. Moving the number to seven and even five is still an all in event, as all schools have the opportunity to work the halls to move from three kids to seven kids. I don't think the IHSWCA is saying any particular school is not eligible, but to be eligible you have to have this many wrestlers. Kinda like saying you have to have this many points to eligible to be considered as an wild card to the team state event as all schools have the opportunity to score enough points, just has the have the opportunity to works the halls. bog190 and decbell1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bog190 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Moving the number to seven and even five is still an all in event, as all schools have the opportunity to work the halls to move from three kids to seven kids. I don't think the IHSWCA is saying any particular school is not eligible, but to be eligible you have to have this many wrestlers. Kinda like saying you have to have this many points to eligible to be considered as an wild card to the team state event as all schools have the opportunity to score enough points, just has the have the opportunity to works the halls. Great point. Good luck getting that across to the committee. decbell1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 It is no coincidence that the Jay County regional 2nd placers match up with the Peru regional champions 6 times a year. This year it happened at 106- 113 120- JC Qualified- only draw that would have qualified him 160- JC Qualified- only draw that would have qualified him 170- JC Qualified- would have qualified with ANY draw 285 Add to that Jay County 3's see Peru champs another 4 times in the ticket round, that means Jay County's 2's and 3's get to see Peru's champs 10 times while Goshen and Carroll both see them only 8 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bog190 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Wouldn't that explain 2 additional qualifiers instead of 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Wouldn't that explain 2 additional qualifiers instead of 8? It explains why Jay County gets more qualifiers in general. Add to that JC had 5 4th place finishers which tells me draws made a HUGE impact on their qualifier numbers. The three other regionals only had 3, 4th place finishers. This "formula" has been the same for the past 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 This "formula" has been the same for the past 7 years. You mean the "random" pairings? I didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bog190 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 It explains why Jay County gets more qualifiers in general. Add to that JC had 5 4th place finishers which tells me draws made a HUGE impact on their qualifier numbers. The three other regionals only had 3, 4th place finishers. This "formula" has been the same for the past 7 years. Fair enough, 8 is still a large margin to write off as having good draws, was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Once again, I don't have a problem with Carroll at a Level 5. I just think a SSQ from JC Regional is on same level as any other qualifier from Goshen or Carroll. Edited February 17, 2016 by decbell1 bwoodjc89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwoodjc89 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Gunsett getting 4th was not by virtue of the draw. If there was ever an example of "getting caught" that one was it. He should have had 3rd. Yes, it was a 4th but it wasn't because of his great draw. One could argue with a different draw he could have placed 1st or 2nd. JC Regional had 6 champs compared to Carroll's 3. I suppose that was due to the draw too? Wade Dupont 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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