decbell1 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 According to the IHSAA, there are now 312 wrestling programs in the state. Traditionally, we have always split these into three classes. It has also been accepted that Mater Dei be ranked amongst the 3A schools, because they choose to compete there. Here are the 3A schools: Anderson Avon Bedford North Lawrence Ben Davis Bloomington North Bloomington South Brownsburg Carmel Carroll (Fort Wayne) Castle Center Grove Chesterton Columbus East Columbus North Concord Connersville Crown Point Decatur Central DeKalb East Central East Chicago Central East Noble Elkhart Central Elkhart Memorial Evansville Central Evansville Harrison Evansville Mater Dei Evansville North Evansville Reitz Fishers Floyd Central Fort Wayne North Side Fort Wayne Northrop Fort Wayne Snider Fort Wayne South Side Fort Wayne Wayne Franklin Central Franklin Community Gary Westside Goshen Greenfield Central Greenwood Hamilton Southeastern Hammond Morton Harrison (WL) Highland Hobart Homestead Huntington North Indianapolis Arsenal Tech Indianapolis Cathedral Indianapolis Northwest Jay County Jeffersonville Jennings County Kokomo Lafayette Jefferson Lake Central LaPorte Lawrence Central Lawrence North Logansport Lowell Marion Martinsville McCutcheon Merrillville Michigan City Mishawaka Mooresville Mount Vernon (Fortville) Muncie Central* Munster New Albany New Castle Noblesville North Central Northridge Pendleton Heights Penn Perry Meridian Pike Plainfield Plymouth Portage Richmond Roncalli Seymour Shelbyville South Bend Adams South Bend Clay South Bend Riley South Bend Washington Southport Terre Haute North Terre Haute South Valparaiso Warren Central Warsaw Westfield Whiteland Zionsville Here are the 2A schools: Andrean Angola Batesville Beech Grove Bellmont Benton Central Bishop Dwenger Bishop Luers Blackford Boone Grove Boonville Brebeuf Jesuit Brown County Calumet Charlestown Columbia City Corydon Central Crawfordsville Culver Academies Danville Delphi Delta Eastbrook Edgewood Evansville Bosse Evansville Memorial Fairfield Fort Wayne Concordia Frankfort Franklin County Garrett Gibson Southern Glenn Greencastle Greensburg Griffith Guerin Catholic Hamilton Heights Hammond Hammond Clark Hammond Gavit Hanover Central Heritage Heritage Hills Indian Creek Indianapolis Bishop Chatard Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter Indianapolis Marshall Indianapolis Washington Jasper Jimtown Kankakee Valley Knox Lakeland Lawrenceburg Lebanon Leo Maconaquah Madison Mishawaka Marian Mississinewa Mitchell Mount Vernon (Posey) New Haven New Palestine New Prairie North Montgomery North Posey North Putnam Northview Northwestern NorthWood Norwell Oak Hill Owen Valley Peru Pike Central Princeton Rensselaer Central Rochester Rushville Salem Scottsburg South Bend St. Joseph South Dearborn South Vermillion Southmont Southridge Sullivan Tippecanoe Valley Tipton Tri West Twin Lakes Vincennes Lincoln Washington Wawasee West Lafayette West Noble West Vigo Western Western Boone Wheeler Whitko Yorktown And here are the 1A schools: Adams Central Alexandria Attica Blue River Valley Bluffton Bremen Cambridge City Lincoln Carroll (Flora) Cascade Caston Centerville Central Noble Churubusco Clinton Central Clinton Prairie Cloverdale Covington Crawford County Culver Community Daleville Eastern (Greentown) Eastern (Pekin) Eastern Hancock Eastside Elwood Forest Park Fountain Central Frankton Fremont Frontier Hagerstown Hammond Bishop Noll Hebron Indiana School for the Blind Indiana School for the Deaf Indianapolis Broad Ripple Indianapolis Crispus Attucks Indianapolis Howe Academy Indianapolis Manual Indianapolis Scecina Knightstown Lafayette Central Catholic Lake Station Edison LaVille Lewis Cass Madison Grant Manchester Milan Monroe Central Monrovia New Washington North Judson North Knox North Miami North Newton North Vermillion North White Northeastern Northfield Paoli Pioneer Prairie Heights Providence Randolph Southern River Forest Rockville Rossville Seeger Shenandoah Sheridan South Adams South Newton South Putnam South Spencer Southern Wells Southwestern (Hanover) Southwood Speedway Switzerland County Taylor Tecumseh Tell City Tri Tri Central Triton Triton Central Turkey Run Union City Union County Wabash Wapahani Wes-Del West Central Westview Whiting Winamac Winchester Wood Memorial Woodlan The only thing that would change this would be if there are any new programs. (Although in my opinion, if a new program starts up, it would have to be a 1A school anyways, and would probably just make sense to add an extra team to 1A.) The only schools above 1A that do not have wrestling programs to my knowledge are Silver Creek and Herron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Just to be clear: a list like this is unofficial until the list of teams competing at sectional is finalized by the IHSAA shortly before the tournament series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 What is the rough enrollment figures for the highest and lowest of each class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ben Davis 4687 Jasper 1099 Northview 1087 North Posey 513 Woodlan 510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ben Davis 4687 Jasper 1099 Northview 1087 North Posey 513 Woodlan 210 Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 That should read Woodlan 510, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatic46041 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Rossville, 285 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I didn't think that the IHSAA recognized class wrestling. Shouldn't this say "Coaches Association" classes or something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 I didn't think that the IHSAA recognized class wrestling. Shouldn't this say "Coaches Association" classes or something similar? The IHSAA does not have a classed state tournament. This website ranks teams in three classes because the IHSWCA has chosen to host a tournament with three classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Based on the new information from the IHSAA: New Palestine and Jasper are now 2A Muncie Central is now 3A Oak Hill is still in 1A (as they should have been last year) and Centerville drops to 1A. Lapel, Oldenburg Academy, Faith Christian, Christian Academy and Lighthouse Academy all dropped programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Rossville has wrestled both Lapel and Faith Christian this year.. Are you sure this list of dropped programs is accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Rossville has wrestled both Lapel and Faith Christian this year.. Are you sure this list of dropped programs is accurate?Lapel has a team. Faith Christian may have a team, but I'd not assigned to a sectional as of the IHSAA update this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 This whole thing is a work in progress. I have contacted a few teams to make sure that they are not fielding teams. Lighthouse Academy does not ahve a team for sure, they are club only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busstogate Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Howe Military also dropped theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 New Palestine is now classified as a 2A team? Will they be matched up in the same bracket as Yorktown for the IHSWCA duals? With Alec White, Chad Red, Diep, Timberman, Starks, Grable, etc. New Pal looks like a pretty loaded team and they may be a tough matchup in the 2A division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 New Palestine is now classified as a 2A team? Will they be matched up in the same bracket as Yorktown for the IHSWCA duals? With Alec White, Chad Red, Diep, Timberman, Starks, Grable, etc. New Pal looks like a pretty loaded team and they may be a tough matchup in the 2A division As of right now for the 2016 version of team state they would be a 2A team. That is based off of the teams listed as entering sectional on the IHSAA website. If the IHSWCA takes the suggestion of only counting teams with 5 or more wrestlers, then it would look even more plausible to see them at 2A next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Faith Christian has been added to the IHSAA list, they are 1A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 New Palestine is now classified as a 2A team? Will they be matched up in the same bracket as Yorktown for the IHSWCA duals? With Alec White, Chad Red, Diep, Timberman, Starks, Grable, etc. New Pal looks like a pretty loaded team and they may be a tough matchup in the 2A division Nothing on this thread is official in any way. It is solid, educated guesses at where teams will end up being classified in qualifying for NEXT year. Until the IHSAA's sectional participation lists are final and until the IHSWCA finalizes any tweaks it wants for qualifying for next year's event, no classification list will be final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeandBreighton Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Based on the new information from the IHSAA: New Palestine and Jasper are now 2A Muncie Central is now 3A Oak Hill is still in 1A (as they should have been last year) and Centerville drops to 1A. Lapel, Oldenburg Academy, Faith Christian, Christian Academy and Lighthouse Academy all dropped programs. if we're 1A and should have been last year, when do we get an invite? I think we could battle well in 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishingbasket Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Oak Hill is definitely one of the best teams in state at 1A JakeandBreighton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernIndianaVoice Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Unfortunately for Oak Hill, they will have to qualify for NEXT years Team State based on this season's results of their individuals in the State Tournament, so if they are as good as they say they are, they should have some underclassmen advance far into the State Tournament and that should hopefully be enough to score enough points to be invited to wrestle at Team State next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Oak Hill is always near the cut-off enrollment, but seems to get bumped by random schools entering in a couple wrestlers at sectional. It is probably time to only count teams with 5 or more wrestlers entered at sectional. In all honestly if a team has five wrestlers and all five are state champions they would be in the running for a spot at team state. Any team with less is just fodder to weaken the classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'd say including all teams in the data is still a fair system, even if those with less than 5 wrestlers will likely not have a chance of making the final cut. All teams at least deserve a chance to see how they are competing overall and within their respective Class group. However, for the sake of dividing up the Classes "best" it could be helpful to remove the teams with that few wrestlers (not sure best number but less than 5 sounds reasonable) when splitting up the three classes equally. Once The class splits are created then the removed teams (those with low numbers) can be placed back in the system as additional 1A teams. Or in a few cases those low wrestling number may need to be placed as additions to the 2A group if their school size would dictate that rationalization. Sure that would make the pool of teams in 1AM slightly larger than the other classes, but as mentioned earlier the teams with low numbers are less likely to be a factor in the final results anyway. One side effect of this solution though could be that by causing the cut numbers to shifting up, it does allow a few more "larger size" schools to move into the next lower Class. Some 1A school especially may look at the addition of these "larger size" schools into their Class as not really creating a true 1A group to compete within. But someone would have to look at the adjusted splits more closely to see just how much of a shift this idea may cause and how big of a school size jump we are talking about between the new schools which would move down and those already in the Class. decbell1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 To even have points tallied at sectional you need at least 3 wrestlers entered. There is no reason teams with less than 5 wrestlers should be counted. It is fruitless and just makes 1A even weaker. It won't hurt adding 5-10 teams into 1A that field 5+ wrestlers. There is no solid reason to include teams that have a ZERO chance of qualifying even if all their kids were returning state champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 To even have points tallied at sectional you need at least 3 wrestlers entered. There is no reason teams with less than 5 wrestlers should be counted. It is fruitless and just makes 1A even weaker. It won't hurt adding 5-10 teams into 1A that field 5+ wrestlers. There is no solid reason to include teams that have a ZERO chance of qualifying even if all their kids were returning state champions. Agreed. Even a team with 6 state champs that technically qualifies for the Team State Duals and all six wrestlers pin every opponent in every dual still has no chance at beating a team with a full roster. They would be taking up a spot for another team and completely defeating the purpose of the Team State Duals. Y2CJ41 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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