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  1. 2PM Eastern is start time I know weigh ins are at 11:30 or 12pm I know of these schools coming Manchester Trine Wabash CCSJ U of Indy Lincoln should be there Muskegeon Oakland Univ (club team) Rumor of USI's Club team coming I don't know about IPFW's club team It should be a great mix and there will be some great match-ups I like the 149 prospective match ups Manchester's outstanding Freshman Brady and Wabash's returning NCAA Qualifier Strausbaugh There are other schools, but I am just not sure who. I know Coach Burlingame has been diligently working toward making this tournament as successful as possible. There are a lot of schools invited to come,and Coach Burlingame was especially trying to contact more club teams to join.
  2. I am not saying Garcia isn't a very good wrestler, but I was right in answering the prior question that the prior seasons ending results and prior weight class mean nothing if you are from better school you are afforded better opportunities. The only considerations taken are the one you see fit. I see you are still neglecting to take hicks' win over catron into consideration, which is ok because they wrestle in late Dec anyway that is if there is not some strange reason for them not too. Its like the kid has the plague for wrestling at a small school from which has few accomplishments. Slagle wrestled 130 last weekend and if he is going 125 why on earth would you not make 125 and take a shot at wrestling Kieffer from Roncalli just my opinion there, not saying he didn't want to wrestle him but you have to seize an opportunity like that. Also Hicks' 3 loss last season were not anything to be ashamed of and he never missed a match or sat out against anybody and often time bumped up a weight class chasing a better match. Yea his schedule is lacking but it's a far better schedule than Seeger's previous schedules. Since 2008 they have been dropping lesser tournaments and Duals as they have final been invited to much better tournaments for above average performances by a small school. A body of work is important but isn't everything your putting into the equation, and to say school doesn't matter at all is just absurd because school is a big factor. What body of work does Slagle have who has he beat you didn't mention anything other than he is greatly improved but hey he is a region kid from griffith. 1 point matches are tough performances against State Champs but they are still losses. I remember Green the 215 third placer from Kokomo last season had an out there performance at his holiday tournament winning 9 match by a spread of less than 15 points with 2 triple over times and another overtime match as well. A loss to him by a 1 point isn't really an accomplishment. McGinley's win over Sommer is impressive but Sommer has pretty much the same resume as Hicks only now he has a loss, being ahead of hicks still a stretch. And back to the original issue Qualifying for state at 112 and moving up 2 weight classes verses Qualifying at state and staying the same weight the value of having experience at a weight class seems to be what is undermined. So that is my question how do you justify putting a state qualifier of a lower weight above a state qualifier staying at his previous weight, quality wins for the kid is kind of a lesser topic here because the quality wins from last season are at that lower weight.
  3. That is exactly the problem if your a returning 112 going to 130 and you go to a notable school and or have a name i.e. prestigious family, then you are in the in crowd and will be ranked. It's not last years performance that matters. I give you Garcia from Merrillville ranked at 119, he didnt even make out of the first round of semi-state at 112 and is ranked 4th 119, where as a kid like Jordan Hicks makes it to state at 125 and barely makes the ranking board this week at 16 but previously wasn't ranked because he goes to Seeger.(oh by the way Garcia was knocked out by a Seeger kid who isn't ranked at 112) I think you get my point here that its the school not the wrestler. You can't get accurate rankings with one voter anyways there has to be a committee of people who need to make a good ranking board because good kids from less than stellar schools are always overlooked. Not saying it will fix everything but the more eyes watching and the more minds deliberation the better and more understandable the whole picture will look.
  4. I saw Slagle of Griffith listed at 125 wrestling 130 last weekend at Laf. Jeff
  5. I figured I would start early; I want to see who are the locks? Who to watch for? Dark Horses? and Stud Freshman? LOCKS- 103 Overby Harrison 119 Draper 125 Hicks Seeger 145 Hodge Harrison 160 Lynde Delphi 215 Sumner McC Who to watch for 103 White West Lafayette 112 Weise Benton Central 112 Hanthorne Seeger 119 Schrader Central Catholic 119 McTaggert Benton Central 125/130 Griffin McC 125130 Jackson Laf. Jeff 130/135 Ponto Benton Central 135/140 McTaggert Benton Central 140 Brown Laf. Jeff 145 Dale McC 152 Palmieri West Lafayette 160 Gutirrez McC 171 Rumell Delphi 171 Chaney Harrison 189 Patton West Laffayette 215 Anderson Delphi 285 Ford McC Dark Horses 112/119 McCoy Harrison 140/45 Cholula McC Freshman Personally don't know of any figured I could use some help. Obviously I can't guarantee weights of these people but I figure they are a factor no matter what weight class With info in return on weights maybe we could have a pre-season ranking of the top 4 in every weight class
  6. I promise you they have both stepped it up, if they didn't step it up every year then we wouldn't be have this conversation.
  7. This should be a good one of course by my records I have them flip-flopped Binion got 7th at 119 which gives them a common opponent in Alex Catron last Season Binion V Catron score 3-1 Hicks V Catron score 10-4 Having seen both of these match and a little bit of a biased opinion(maybe a lot of bias) Hicks should be the victor by score of something like 6-2
  8. The crappy thing about the J & C is that they will cover every basketball game list from best to worst. We wrestling fans are lucky to get a full length atricle for the sectional. Everything in the sports pager is Purdue athletics. Purdue has it own website that is updated frequently. Most of the people they report on aren't even area kids. Yes they put in a few here or there. When it come to High school athletics they could care less about sport outside of Football, Vollyball, Basketball, and Baseball. The Frenzy is the exact same way. Lafayette's coverage is sad, and when they do report outside of those they send uneducated reporters who might have seen the sport once in their life. It is a sad sad depiction of Area athletics. Its not like it is going to take up any prime time space because most meets are on tuesday and thursday. Tournaments may be hard for them to do but it is very possible.
  9. By my math that puts us right at two classes It would work I don't under stantd why a segrigated team state would be such a problem. I uderstand why A single individual champion would be benificial. But as far as a team goes you can't tell me it is fair when a shool with 400 students versus a school with 1200 students. How many teams under 500 students have ever made the state finals. We have a problem with kids switching schools now so That isn't a factor that would change do to a class shift. Also under the format I present the team tournament goes by duels . We all know that a good tournament team does not equal a good dual team. IndianaMats top twenty teams teams and enrollment 1. Mishawaka (23-0) 1676 2. Crown Point (12-1) 2187 3. Yorktown (27-1) 731 4. Perry Meridian (22-1) 2004 5. Castle (15-3) 1754 6. Evansville Reitz (17-1) 824 7. Evansville Mater Dei (17-1) 571 8. Merrillville (17-2) 2275 9. Penn (17-3) 3268 10. Portage (14-6) 2595 11. Bloomington South (17-4) 1939 12. Bellmont (19-5) 910 13. Franklin (20-6) 2058 14. Roncalli (12-3) 980 15. Jeffersonville (22-6) 2069 16. Cathedral (18-3) 1208 17. New Palestine (22-5) 999 18. Carmel (7-4) 3916 19. Lawrence North (10-5) 2962 20. Center Grove (19-5) 2255 Only two schools are lower than indianas averge of 740 And no topic is DUMB to post about Duck and Run You have proven that one yourself
  10. 309 Schools competed this year in wrestling this year. only 8 participate in the team state finals I propose 2 classes Here is Why You allow 8 more teams media exposure IHSAA makes more money More fans of more schools will get exposed to quality wrestling It will get smaller schools more excited about wrestling raising number of participants It is possible to do it with out interupting the indivual tourney Here is how Split the schools in half D2 small schools 154 D1 Big schools 155 Team Sectionals 154 Schools 16 Sectional, 1o teams at 10 Sectionals, 9 teams at 6 Sectionals D1 Big schools 155 Team Sectionals 155 Schools 16 Sectional, 1o teams at 11 Sectionals, 9 teams at 5 Sectionals Each Sectional would look like this Start 11 days before sectionals Seed meeting on Monday Dual Meet format 10 team format 9 Teams Tue Thur @ Pre determined Location Tue Thur @ Predetermined Location A 10v8, EWinner A v.1 @1 Home Winner E v. Winner B A8v.9, E Winner A v.1@1 Home Winner E v. Winner B B 4v5 @4 Home Winner F v. Winner C B4v.5@4 Home Winner C v. Winner D C3v6 @3 Home Winners Then Compete C3v.6@3 Home Winners then Compete D 7v9, F Winner D v.2 @ 2 Home D7v.2@ 2Home -The next week is dead for Indivual Sectionals- Top 2 Teams Advance The Wed. After Ind Sectionals 8 Regionals Winner Sectional A v. Runner Up B Winner Sectonal B v. Runner Up of A Winners competer The Following Wed. Top two Per Regional Advavnce to 4 Semi States Winner Regional A v. Runner Up Regional B Winner B v. Runner Up A Winners Compete Top Two Advance to an 8 team State Championship where D1 and D2 will be held at the same location the Sat after Individual State No change to the individual tournament at all
  11. School Sizes Lafayette Harrison 1539 Castle 1606 Roncalli 961 Yorktown 642 Perry Meridian 1748 Cathedral 1094 Crown point 1785 Mishawaka 1541 Most of them are bigger schools I wonder why; more money, better coaches, better facillities, more students to go out for the team, better variety of classes,....... the list can go on small schools cant compete.
  12. My guess is that they look more for body structure and wrestling style more so than weight class. Most leggit semiors hit at least 119, very few stay below 112, but i definitely think you have to show growth and muscular maturity throughout high school. I would think that Petrov, Brooks, and Phillips will get to 119. They also have to succeed in every weight class they compete in.
  13. We played a game called ringworm it only works if you have practice circles up and is a good idea to have padded walls. The object was not to get pushed out of th circles but you could jump from one to the next.
  14. Yep you can run from that truth Question for Y2- What is the criteria used to move up for a sectional qualifier to regional qualifier? Never really understood that.My guess was that it had to do with the number of post
  15. My favorite Singlet wasn't because of the style, but how it caught my eye. I think every noticed it but Raley's singlet was falling apart I am suprise the R made it through the match. Hope he gets a new singlet before next season probably otta use a new vender as well. Love the Plaid Hated the Bubblebee if you wear something like that you gotta be an absolute stud not losing in the consoles.
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