ENoblewrestling

Thanks! You guys are doing an awesome job of keeping everybody aware of the qualification process.

Hey curious as to what the "tiebreaker" is when it talks about Busco and Winchester?

I'm pretty sure 160 and 182 are the only weights left that have a chance of having four undefeated facing off in the state finals. Anyone see that happening? Which weight has a better chance? 160 Grey Delta Koontz Edgewood Gonzalez Connersville Hughes Lowell 182 Hinkle Western Shaffer South Putnam Osborn Penn Paris Lawrenceburg McCool Pendleton Heights James Roncolli

If that is the view point then we are choosing our classes in the wrong way anyhow. The way that the IHSWCA divides the classes is a replica of how the IHSAA divides their classes. This method only makes sense if you believe that all-in is something that matters, which I personally do. If we don't believe that school x, y, or z deserve consideration then there is no reason to divide our classes the way we do. All IHSAA tournaments are all-in. The football tournament lets Indiana Deaf play even though they may not have a shot because the IHSAA tournament is all-in. If what we are attempting to do is to classify what a competitive small school, a medium size school, and a big school are then we would be much better off saying that schools with lets say less than 600 students are small schools, 601-1300 are medium, 1301- are big schools. Otherwise we will continually be looking at a situation like we have now. Someone will be getting screwed because whatever team shouldn't count because they do not have a shot. Under the current situation we will be adjusting classes constantly, we will be having teams moving up and down based upon sectional entries, there will always be a questions of who should and who should count. Dividing evenly among classes really only makes sense if we are counting everyone. To me it is simple either we follow what the IHSAA does and have an all in, or we do our own thing and divide classes based on however we define competitive small, medium, and large schools. The IHSAA does not count schools with less than three wrestlers for sectional scores, so if we are following the IHSAA for a guide on how to properly divide classes it would make sense that we would not count those teams either. As a voting member of the committee that chose how classes would be divided this was my primary consideration. I am only speaking for myself here, but that is why my vote went where it did.

I can recall years where we wrestled teams like Eastside, and Central Noble and they only had around five kids on their team. This year they both competed for a team state title. To just assume that these teams cannot improve or build their program would be incorrect, thats what classing the team state does, it gives those teams something to build toward.

Yes that is the commitee.

You might be saying that because of the lack of depth at your sectional, but I see solid kids every year that either do or potentially get screwed by a random draw. You guys are always on here proclaiming to know what is best for our sport, but how would this easy fix that helps to ensure that solid kids get a fair shot any different than people whining about "fairness" when it comes to wrestlebacks? I guess wrestlebacks are just another part of America becoming more and more wimpier.

Is there any reason why we place the unseeded wrestlers the way we do at sectionals? It is unfair to all involved for an unseeded kid to draw the #1 or the #2. Usually they don't have much of a chance, but in a deeper sectional you will see some pretty good kids, kids that could be regional or semi-state qualifiers draw into the best kids in the rattails, I do not see why we place their season on a blind draw? In our conference we seed 1-6, place 7 and 8 on the bracket based on record, then we draw in 9, 10, 11 against the 6,7, and 8. This at least gives these kids a chance, those ratails essentially become a "wrestle-in" match for the unseeded guys. The way it stands now you could have a kid who is 3-27 get a better draw than a 25-10 kid, I have no clue why we do it this way.

Was that at 152, or 160?

The original post.This guys icon has AC as his school so I assumed that is the case?

So if I am reading this correctly they are bumping to avoid Liter, and going up to wrestle Luginbill?

Just curious why is Oak Hill suddenly in 1A? They were ranked in 2A last time correct?

A few quick 2 pound weight allowance questions. 1. Does the two pound allowance count toward everyone, or do you have to have previously made scratch weight for it to come into effect? Example your 160 weights 154 and wrestles 160, and has never made 152. Is that wrestler eligible to wrestle 152, or does he have to make scratch 152 before it comes into effect? I do realize that this would not be a qualifying weigh-in at that weight, but could he still wrestle that weight? 2. What season did the two pound allowance come into effect? I don't remember it from when I wrestled (late 90's), did it exist then? If so has it always been around? 3. Do any other coaches dislike the allowance? I am sure wrestlers disagree, but I can't stand it. I think that it does more harm than good. With the two pound allowance and only needing to make scratch weight once I think that it encourages kids to make bigger weight cuts. This is especially true of the weights that are closer to each other. If you weight 138, 134 is not that far off for example. Makes the sectional a real guessing game in a lot of cases.

Not a big deal really, but I am curious as to how Winchester is ranked 6th, while teams like Eastside, and West Central are left off of the list. Eastside beat Churubusco 45-28 in a dual, and Busco finished 2nd at a tournament that Winchester finished 6th. I know comparing duals and tournaments is not apples to apples but just curious as to what went into that decision?

Thanks for think link. I just got it to work.

Is there a YouTube link or a way to watch these if you missed the live show?

Unfortunately I got it cut, and my hair, much like my team was a bit average and flat this weekend. We will work on both as the season progresses.

There was a process for seeding that was sent out to coaches and AD's in an email earlier this week. This weekends matches will have a really big effect on seeding if I were to guess.

Don't forget about Westview. Five of the twelve 1A qualifiers are from the NECC, should be a good early preview of some of the team state action. I agree it sucks that the conference title is pretty well established this first weekend.

With the new format this weekend, and Garrett's return I thought I would see if anyone had any thoughts on this weekends action.

We don't start competitions until December. Just curious who all else has yet to see any action this season?

I was researching wrestling moves and came across several sites that mentioned something called an Indiana Hook. One site said it was the most illegal move in wrestling. Anyone know what this is? I like the name at least. I found a video. I guess its a butt drag. I have never heard it called an Indiana Hook before haha.

We just bought a knew tablet and I am looking for options to store our videos on after we have taken them. I don't mind youtube so much, but our school blocks it. I tried flo, buy they don't seem to take personal videos anymore. Anyone know of any good options?

Curious was that at 38 or 45? Were they both in the same weight, or did one bump to see the other?