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Frustrating that schools like Rider, Little Rock (x2), Campbell, and Columbia can put people on the podium, but both our B1G schools are shut out again. I know IU is getting better, and Purdue had success last year, but still frustrating nonetheless.

For the last part of this year, the HEW and continual nagging injury seemed pretty evident.

Lance Ellis Angel Escobedo

No matter what happens with happens with him this year, I hope future potential Indana recruits take note of his career. He went from being a zero time state champion to a solid D1/B1G wrestler and a legitimate AA contender. Heck, he even has signature wins against a number of notable names including one from PSU who will go down as one of the best ever. That is much for DJ and the IU coaching staff to be proud of. Cheers to him.

So, understand Chat GPT can be fed new data and will learn from this information. I copy/pasted all the team state championships and the number of individual state champions per school. I just copied from the IHSAA pdf and am not sure if the text lined up perfectly, but here is its new top ten. This is a pretty solid historical viewpoint. Certainly, to create a more comprehensive list of the ten best wrestling teams in Indiana history, we can include both the number of individual state champions and team state championships. Here's an updated list based on the combined criteria: Bloomington South (Bloomington): Bloomington South stands out with 67 individual state champions and has also won multiple team state championships, making it one of the most successful wrestling programs in Indiana. Evansville Mater Dei: With 34 individual state champions and several team state championships, Evansville Mater Dei is a dominant force in Indiana wrestling. Indianapolis Cathedral: Indianapolis Cathedral, with 26 individual state champions and team state titles to their name, is known for its wrestling excellence. Southport: Southport, with 25 individual state champions and a history of team state championships, has a strong wrestling tradition. Warren Central: Warren Central has produced 19 individual state champions and has also won team state championships, showcasing its consistent success in both individual and team competition. Lawrence North: With 23 individual state champions and a team state championship, Lawrence North has been a competitive wrestling program. South Bend Central: South Bend Central, with 23 individual state champions and a history of team state championships, is another school with a strong wrestling tradition. Delta: Delta, with 18 individual state champions and team state championships, is recognized for its wrestling achievements. Mishawaka: Mishawaka has a strong history of individual state champions and team state championships, making it a prominent wrestling program. Indianapolis Shortridge: Indianapolis Shortridge, with 18 individual state champions, is notable for its wrestling achievements and has also won team state championships. These schools have demonstrated both individual and team success in Indiana wrestling, contributing significantly to the sport's legacy in the state. It's important to note that the ranking is subjective and can vary based on specific criteria and time frames considered.

This is brilliant. The Tech Sectional has Cathedral and... Southport Sectional has Beech Grove, Lawrence Central, Lawrence North, Mt. Vernon (Fortville), North Central(Indianapolis), Perry Meridian, Roncalli, and Southport. Cathedral will pretty much always have 14 sectional champs.

Are schools not filling these positions, or is this list not being updated?

Paris' Hodge trophy and a junior world gold are a big deal. Angel's NCAA title, 4 AAs, and trip to a Senior World medal match are pretty huge, too. I think it is a fun discussion between Paris, Angel, Lee, and Howe. One can make a great case for any of these four.

If you went back a ways ((pre-late 1990s?) before the creation of the current format, there was a time when only the two finalists went to Regionals. All it took was three good schools, and many very good kids would finish their year after the semifinals. One such example was the old Brebeuf Sectional. in the late 1980s and through the early1990s Cathedral, North Central, and Chatard were all top 15 teams. Then throw in Brebeuf's three or four very tough kids, and the semifinals were full of great wrestling.

Gonna have to say it... ...3 x state Champ, Junior World Champ, B1G Champ, 3 X All American, NCAA Champ, and now a Hodge Trophy... Mason Parris = Indiana Goat

Escobedo has to be in the equation... ...and, for what it's worth, Sarah Hildebrandt's senior-level world hardware probably makes her the overall Indiana GOAT.

Parris is for sure in the conversation mix now. I think he needs to make a senior team to contend for the Indiana GOAT title. That being said, I will not be surprised when that happens.

Is it a foregone conclusion Harris is taking over at one of the three big schools listed above?

Any hope of DJ Washington getting an at-large bid?

A total misconception that all Big 10 teams must field the same sports. For example, Wisconsin does not have a baseball team.

XXX is the only redeeming aspect of all things Purdue. Love that place.

Wow. I had no idea. The spread between 3rd and 4th place is fascinating, too.

To be clear, no where did I mention anything about the size of school or class sports. I merely wondered if the nationwide trend toward elite wrestling academies, national pre/post season tournaments (Super 32, Beast of the East, Poweraid, etc...), and some of the best kids forgoing high school seasons to train with RTCs is truly best for the sport. Maybe it is. I am just not so sure yet, and I hardly call it negative to discuss such. Like it or not, the biggest academies, national travel, and the rise of powerhouse private schools like Sem, Valiant Prep, etc... are aspects of our sport that are here and deserve to be explored and scrutinized.

Is it really? I can't help but wonder if high school wrestling is on the cusp of becoming like high school tennis... Where the best don't bother competing for their school, the few that do have little to do with the high school program, national tourneys are all that matter, and a sport for the very wealthy. Im not saying its there now, but think maybe this is where we are headed.

Thanks for this. Seems a radio broadcast is the best I can do here in SE Asia.

For years the IHSAA played the finals for free for those of us outside of Indiana. Guess that option is gone now.

My favorite: Maaallll doooo naaaa dooooo!!!! (There were many different first names over the years)

Perhaps hew is HEW? He has grinded forever and a ligering injury can take its toll. I sure hope not, but I would get it. He certainly has a had an amazing career no matter what happens.

Purdue lost to Maryland.

At times it seems coaches of all levels are doing all they can to make the sport difficult for all but the absolute elite and most hardcore fans: -Marathon youth tournaments -Sucking weight -Ditching hs duals in favor of marathon tournaments every single Saturday -Ducking to protect seeds (When does this trickle down to hs?) -"Pitch counts" for current stars -Duals that mean zero to anyone -Forfeits on the back side...heck even in the B1G finals... -Some of our biggest senior level stars wrestle one event a year. The list grow more and more every year.