TheAncientElder

That is NOT AN ERROR he was DQed after the match for an illegal practice partner. TAE

Site is down temporarily. I forgot to renew. But can still be contacted at theancientelder@comcast.net The info requested by Galagore would be in the old book. I will be at Mooresville Saturday and I will bring a couple of copies of the 2002 book. TAE

Right off the top of my head I would say the Moore twins of Blomington in '43 and the Mudd twins of Hammond High in '63. TAE

littlevito, Special kudos to you I love the history freaks TAE

Dave, Hang in there. You can beat. You, now, have me to coach you. TAE

As a true Dick I am offended by the misuse of my nickname. TAE

Sorry people, I have had a Tammy Wynette / Martin Luther King Jr. summer and the book had to be put on hold. I could probably rush it and get it out by state finals but I prefer to hold it back for a year and get it right. September 2011 is my projected release date. TAE

Mustang Fan, Who won the Gene Brewer award. TAE

History lesson: I try to deal in facts, not fiction or speculation (I have been sucked into speculation a couple of times). The best state finals match I can find is the 1958 120 lb. state finals match. ?A classic match-up at 120 lbs drew everyone?s attention. Two defending champions squared off, Bill Andrews of Indianapolis Manual, 1957 champ at 103 lbs., and Ron Hutcherson of Bloomington, 1957 champ at 112 lbs. Andrews claimed the victory and won his second individual title.? Andrews won the match by an 8 to 4 score. This may sound like a low scoring, boring match, BUT at that time you were not allowed to release a wrestler once you had taken him down. It was an automatic 1-point stalling penalty if you released, plus the escape point. You were required to work for the pin. One point then was probably worth ten points by today?s standards. Absolutely useless trivia: head gears were optional, nobody used a mouth pieced, you wrestled without tops, and most of the holds pictured in the rulebook as illegal were allowed. And as Paul Harvey used to say ?Now you know the rest of the story? TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Wrestle-offs are not required. There are no rules for them. The coach can dictate the team. Sorry to have to tell you that. Complaining to the school probably will not help your wrestler. TAE

Sorry about that, but some things you just have to say! Could someone find out what year in school Donald Ellis (1960), Daniel Ruiz (1963), and Mike Nickerson (1962) were when the went to state. Thanks, TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. Here is the list you requested. 1999 171 Q 12 Nick Aksamit Lawrence Central 36 4 1978 112 Q 11 Ron Bocock Lawrence Central 1977 098 Q 10 Ron Bocock Lawrence Central 23 1 1987 105 3 12 Derek Bocock Lawrence Central 33 2 1985 098 Q 10 Derek Bocock Lawrence Central 23 2 1984 098 Q 09 Derek Bocock Lawrence Central 26 8 2009 140 Q 12 Dominique Butts Lawrence Central 32 13 1995 151 2 12 Vernon Cannon Lawrence Central 46 2 1994 152 4 11 Vernon Cannon Lawrence Central 43 7 1993 152 6 10 Vernon Cannon Lawrence Central 35 10 1999 135 Q 10 Danny Creasap Lawrence Central 29 14 2001 140 2 12 Danny Creasep Lawrence Central 42 8 1984 Hwt 2 12 Brad Crouse Lawrence Central 32 3 1996 189 7 12 Mike Dixon Lawrence Central 42 4 2004 130 6 12 Matt Durham Lawrence Central 43 9 1964 120 4 12 Robert Ellis Lawrence Central 1963 112 3 11 Robert Ellis Lawrence Central 1960 133 3 Donald Ellis Lawrence Central 2004 160 2 12 Chaz Ervin Lawrence Central 40 3 2003 152 Q 11 Chaz Ervin Lawrence Central 35 12 1964 112 2 12 Daniel Frazier Lawrence Central 1963 103 3 11 Daniel Frazier Lawrence Central 1996 152 Q 12 Kyle Gillam Lawrence Central 37 10 2004 152 5 12 Jerry Gordon Lawrence Central 42 2 2003 145 6 11 Jerry Gordon Lawrence Central 23 8 2006 130 Q 11 Ross Hamilton Lawrence Central 35 11 1995 172 1 12 Will Hill Lawrence Central 47 1 1999 140 1 12 Josh Holden Lawrence Central 43 1 1998 140 6 11 Josh Holden Lawrence Central 39 7 1988 140 Q 12 Mike Holscher Lawrence Central 27 7 2001 119 4 12 Phu Hong Lawrence Central 41 9 2000 112 Q 11 Phu Hong Lawrence Central 41 8 1997 119 2 12 Nick Hull Lawrence Central 41 2 1996 112 1 11 Nick Hull Lawrence Central 39 3 1995 106 7 10 Nick Hull Lawrence Central 37 9 1985 138 Q 12 Chris Johnson Lawrence Central 26 4 1997 112 4 12 Zach Jones Lawrence Central 30 3 1996 103 7 11 Zach Jones Lawrence Central 40 7 1989 171 Q 12 Jon Lee Lawrence Central 29 4 1 1989 130 Q 12 Mike McGuire Lawrence Central 25 7 2 1988 119 Q 11 Mike McGuire Lawrence Central 27 5 2 2005 140 4 12 Mike Morgan Lawrence Central 36 13 1962 133 3 Mike Nickerson Lawrence Central 1999 152 3 12 Devin O'Dell Lawrence Central 43 1 1998 135 Q 11 Devin O'Dell Lawrence Central 34 8 1995 119 7 12 Andre Riley Lawrence Central 36 6 1963 095 4 Daniel Ruiz Lawrence Central 1967 103 1 12 Steve Startzman Lawrence Central 1966 103 2 11 Steve Startzman Lawrence Central 1991 Hwt Q 12 Eric Stelle Lawrence Central 40 4 1988 112 Q 12 Travis Stokes Lawrence Central 28 8 1989 135 4 12 Andre Tedder Lawrence Central 24 6 1 2003 130 Q 11 Doug Thornton Lawrence Central 39 10 1991 145 5 12 Jerrold Tyquiengco Lawrence Central 39 5 2006 171 Q 12 Mike Walker Lawrence Central 35 10

LCWrestling, Lawrence Central has a wrestling team? TAE

Was it just me or were the fans in the stands pretty sparce in th NUWAY clip? The rules are not that big of an issue, the fan support is! TAE

webster123, Shenandoah has had 8 state qualifiers and 2 place winners. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Jimtown 138, 1977 177 Q 12 Leroy Heller Jimtown 20 3 1 1 Fall 5:54 Lost to State champion Bob Krause of Bloomington North by fall with 6 seconds left in the match. TAE