Bigyusm

All this math is making my head hurt  

Here’s my math to clarify things - if I have 8 pieces of Pizza and I have 8 wrestlers getting ready to wrestle the next day.  - I’ll probably get only 4 pieces , cuz the heavyweight will eat 4 too. 

Let’s limit seating , but hey you can all go to Walmart and shop no problem. The average Wal Mart superstore has 10,000 car visits a day according info I see.  No biggie those superstores are just safer than sitting in a stadium. 

Look nobody told me there would be math here - 

2 hours ago, ontherise219 said:

I think RSN is doing some round by round recaps 

I wonder if you could have crews sit at the table and give commentary - the mic picks everything up anyway.  At ihpo I was cracking up as some kids were loose with their language not realizing it. Haha 

5 hours ago, Wrestling Scholar said:

Ok, so you're saying that in some instances, small school kids get the best possible draw and make it through ,and they would lose that opportunity.   But the easy reply to that logic is,  as many times a small school kid gets a good draw, another small school kid gets a terrible draw.   Its the law of random averages of chance of getting a good or bad draw,  and similar to a coin flip.   So thats silly to say for that reason to say it would affect participation.  I think its more devastating when a small school kid gets a bad beat draw, because those opportunities are so few.    

 

On the flip side,   the big schools have a huge advantage in these sudden death  rounds.   1st is experience,  the coaches from the big schools have been there a lot more and they no how to psychologically prepare their kids  and wrestle better in a sudden death situation.  The expectations at big schools are different and they have more of a history of kids getting through.   I commonly see kids wrestle tight and less aggressive or make bad decisions because of the pressure these rounds.  Most of the time its the small school kids that get overwhelmed in the moment.     

 

 

Just a different outlook - I am a proponent of wrestle backs. And of 2 class system. 
not saying it would always go that route , but those advantages you brought up are a factor as well. 
Im posing a question on the wrestle backs. Could it effect the small schools more ? Our kids who mad it over the past 4 or 5 years - would have made anyway I believe. 
Seems the death draw effects the larger schools more , but that could be because they have more kids there? So it would probably even out. As you say. 

I wonder if Indiana had wrestle backs - would the small school kid who got the best draw possible get knocked out ? Would wrestle backs hurt participation?  For instance say there’s a death draw in the ticket round between 2 great wrestlers - wrestler A loses to wrestler B and now Wrestler C who was let’s say from “Wheeler” won his quarterfinal - loses in semi final - then gets knocked out by Wrestler A on the backside.  I bet this would happen more often than not - it’s hard to get kids in the room when you only have 570 students- if you never get kids going to state - it will be that much harder.  Having those announcements of kids placing in state or going to state is a big deal. 
I am a proponent of wrestle backs btw. I just think there could be a negative effect on smaller programs ? 

 

1 hour ago, Cosgrove said:

I see three champs. With 5 being a possibility.

Whitenack 

Goodwin 

Estrada 

Make 6 possibilities IMO 

Rumor is NWCA is looking to host a national championship for D3 at the end of March in Iowa. Still waiting for more details 

On 2/4/2021 at 7:29 AM, nk140 said:

I laugh at another year of eligibility.  Non-scholarship division means you need to fork out like 30k on tuition to come back to school.  Either have best grades for grad school or a mom/daddy with lots of money.

Yep - it’s a great business plan. Get kids to pay to play sports - cancel said sport and tell them next year. We will give you a free season.  You will give me 40k. I’m beyond pissed - 

3 hours ago, ontherise219 said:

I think they have 7 possible champs 

Hmm 

let’s see here 

obvious ones 

Lemley

Mendez

Bates 

after that 

Frazier (don’t think he can beat lemley )

Goodwin (he’s close )

estrada ? 
Torres or JR ? 
Whitenack 

Bahl ? 

31 minutes ago, ontherise219 said:

Anderson at 52 and Adamczyk at 26. 
 

I have Cp and Chesterton in a tight race, that will be repeated next week at the semi state 

 Ellis v Estrada  - Torres V JR will be huge matchups for team 

The rest I feel have clear champs. 
 

4 hours ago, indianmorg said:

Pretty sure he is ineligible 

He’s supposed to be going Mt. Carmel - not sure about his eligibility. 

42 minutes ago, Coach Nieman said:

As I understand it, if Penn had approved the transfer waiver, the IHSAA would never have had any reason to look into the matter. So them saying "nah" actually is at the crux of it. We had a sophomore student transfer from another school in our conference last year that hadn't even wrestled for them since Jr. High and he wasn't eligible until their AD signed off on it, which they did immediately.

Yep this - while at Wheeler we had a kid who had never played sports transfer from Chesterton and he wasn’t able too until their AD signed off. Which they did as soon as we sent it.  If the AD signs off , IHSAA doesn’t typically get involved.  In my limited experiences with this.  

20 minutes ago, brickfor6 said:

Cervantes was not "putting it on him", Cervantes did wrestle real tough. The score was 4-2 Turley, Then when he called injury time it was 4-4. Cervantes got an escape 5-4. Cervantes scored a takedown 7-4...Last takedown was the final and Turley injury defaulted.

Agreed 

Turley looked like he was going to run away with it , 2 takedowns in first.  Cervantes battled back hard and took the momentum -looking forward to them in the finals Saturday. 

CP 152 

#3 Estrada 

#6 Ellis

#18 Pollit

#23 Ponce 

Anderson (in rankings a couple times) 

Ponce v Anderson Rd 1 will be a good one. 

7 hours ago, RaiderColfax said:

I’m just wondering though, would a 2nd class be helpful to these smaller schools for that reason? 

I can tell you when my son was getting recruited as a Junior who had been to Semi State - one of the schools we reached out to literally told me - he doesn’t have the accolades for me to give him a ton of money. In that same breath he said your son just worked a multi time placer from here , but without those accolades it’s a hard sell.  He elaborated further , “well when I’m recruiting other kids - I can’t say hey I just signed a semi state kid from Indiana! “  This was a D2 school in North Carolina - for a kid like mine those accolades are huge.  He didn’t do many  off season tournaments as he played 2 other sports for most of High School. 
Our School has 520 kids -

That being said for Colleges that recruit Indiana , they typically know getting to Semi State from some regionals is like getting to state in other states. My son wanted to go somewhere warm and those schools we spoke too didn’t really recruit Indiana and didn’t understand our system.  So those accolades were huge.  

32 minutes ago, CpDinger said:

Sorry i had to bust everyone's brackets

Was worth it ! I was very happy for you - you looked great ! 
 

How about Roy Boys 2 off Ripley  - hit that for some ink then roll a block down the road for a Buffett.  This may have occurred for me back in 1994 - 

For a non native regioner I have some real region stories.  Ha. 

4 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Maybe @ontherise219 @Bigyusmand @indianmorg can talk about the best and worst tattoo parlors in da region on Gorilla Radio.

The best are always in a garage off Cleveland St.  

23 minutes ago, brickfor6 said:

all I could afford was dry erase....

I’m not gonna lie when I saw you from the stands.  I was like did he ride his motorcycle here today ? Johansen going all in on the Sons look.  

Sorry but that stream can’t compete with @ontherise219 on the mic for Region Sports at EC - plus it’s free.

Our boys don’t get the respect based on schedule, reputation and not being seen a lot.  It’s not a slight - it just happens to pan out that way a lot.  Kids with 1 loss come into semi state and lose to kids with 12.  So there is a prove it vibe within the wrestling community. Especially if they don’t do off season stuff a ton and play multiple sports.  My son is still salty with some folks for picking against him last year ,  even Though he had beaten guys ranked ahead of him and guys who beat some of them.  Fortunately Tankersly gets a chance to prove everyone wrong this weekend.  I’ll be rooting for him as long as it’s not against a GSSC guy. Lol 

2 hours ago, indianmorg said:

106-I think Stall beats winner of triana/anderson

120-I will take diaz again, i think he has bettich's number and now is in his head having lost two close ones in the final seconds

160-I'll take the Wildcat beating the Kingsman first round

170-I think Phillips takes top bracket, Verbeek not looking great, sources say neither is welch

285-I like Whitenack, as long as he can get off the bottom I think he wins (kid is an absolute monster)

Coming over to the dark side I see ! Diaz and Breedlove I agree.  
GSSC conference for life ! Ha 

Yes he was - was a very close match - I heard his dad was so upset he went out and ate dinner twice Friday night.