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Appreciate this.

Looks like a ton of Indiana studs heading to IU! Awesome to be keeping in state kids home!

Well, tweet went out a few mins ago..looks like he is indeed coming home!! Angel doing work!

Has IU made this last announcement official yet? I can’t find anything .

Coach Goldman retires at IU. Truly appreciate him giving my boy the opportunity to wrestle in the B1G.

Snyder for me. One that I would have loved to have seen would be Snyder vs Stephen Neal from Cal State Bakersfield. Now that would be a match between two fast and athletic heavies!

Hate to see the strangler go, but hoping Angel can make an immediate impact on our lower weights. Welcome home Angel!

Pretty sure Indiana University is hosting the event. If you are talking about an actual website, I don't have that info. Sorry.

Good stuff grappler119. Thanks,

Awesome Disco. That has got to feel better than just talking about it on a forum, no? I would agree with your assessment on the conditioning aspect. Better conditioning allows more heart to come out. And I think IU's wrestlers for the most part did just that. Winning several close matches in the last period. I believe that is why we were able to creep up and take down the Gophers. Even in our losses you had the feeling that if we just had another 30 seconds... I was hoping to give tangible numbers in regards to wins this year vs. wins last year. I am not certain, but it seemed as though we had more wins as a unit this season than in years past. I tried to get those numbers off of wrestlestats but you cant go back to previous years as of now. Anyone know where else to find them? I would be curious as to the overall win totals year by year...

Smooth I wasn't speaking to you about attacking when you joined the fray. That's why I stated that I assumed you have read how we got to this point in the thread. And no I am not "ok" with where we are at. I wish we could be where Penn State is today. Or Okie state, the list goes on and on. My main point is the way people feel the need to attack a program fighting to become relevant again. I have seen the power of a community effort first hand. And while some of my remarks on this thread were in fact passive aggressive, I truly mean it when I say you can help the program. I hail from California where they are closing programs down yearly (west coast). Grand Canyon University just closed shop last week. Cal state Bakersfield was on that very list a few years back. The community rallied behind the coach and we were able to save the program (with big help from Stephen Neal). And while my roll was minimal in it, I was a part of it and it made a difference. I can assure you that Goldman would not turn down help in most any form as long as it helped the program. Being in the B1G I can assure you there are plenty of people who support the program but don't know how to do it. I can also assure you simply stating your dissatisfied on a public forum won't do a thing. So why not take action? Why not help the change you and others call for? What is holding you back? I have had fun guys. Made my point several different ways and none of them have been taken the way I had hoped. I appreciate the fact that we all want IU to be great. I see the changes myself in he last two years specifically so maybe I see the cup half full. In the end, it's a program moving forward. Hopefully this time next year I can say "see, I told you so". Take care, Jeff Martin

Coach, I'm not sure how IU can recruit higher than Oliver or Skatzka last year. Or a Weaver and Danishek the year prior. I don't have an answer on how to get better kids than that. Thus why I suggested the people on this thread to actually inject their expertise on the subject directly to the people that make those decisions. I am positive that no one in that room likes where they are at the moment. Smooth, I am assuming you have read the entire thread. If so, you would see how this has escalated to basically me saying stop complaining and actually DO something about it. I take personally anyone who hides behind a screen name and tries to destroy the credibility of another man, regardless who that man is. I don't owe Goldman or SIMMONS or Pascoe a thing. People think I am vested in the program? I am not. My son has a business relationship with IU. That is it. I do however have more respect for those who want to do rather than those that want to not do. Thus the reason I posted what you quoted. I wonder what response you would get if you actually did email the coaches and voiced your concern? It may lead to a tangible conversation as to where you made a difference in the program. An idea that perhaps Goldman, in his 25+ years of coaching never thought of. But to sit behind a keyboard and slash people who will never get on a forum such as this and defend themselves, I take exception to. That is it. To echo the words of Dingo, we all want IU to be a powerhouse program. We have different ways of expressing it. But we want it nevertheless.

Appreciate that Brigade. I will heed your words. But I do believe that alumni and fans have a voice. There are many ways to help the program. And I am certain that some of those would be appreciated by the coaching staff. There are some really good things happening down in that wrestling room guys. It isn't all doom and gloom like some may suggest here.

Then what actions have you taken to help the program?

Just curious smooth, who did you talk to and what was the outcome? Did they tell you they just wanted to hang around the lower middle of the pack?

I'm working on it Guru.. Lol. It's more of confusion for me as a human.. I was a three time JV league champ but never got the respect I felt it warranted. Now I'm old and fat and just want to be noticed.

Man, the passion from some of you is awesome on getting IU to the next level. I get a little peeved when people cast stones and don't give solutions. Hence some of my other remarks on this topic. And since I am obviously behind on what you all have done to help the situation, could y'all bring me up to date on the below? A) Have you talked to the administration about your displeasure on the success of the program? When and what was the outcome? B..have you offered your guidance to the coaches themselves? Face to face, man to man? If so, when and what was the outcome? C) Have you offered your services as a volunteer to the program? Event coordinator, recruiting assistant, speciality coach, fundraising lead? If so, how did that go? I have several other ideas on how to help the program but they are all somehow attached to the above and will follow up once you supply what you have already exhausted on trying to help get the program to the next level. The one thing that I have noticed about the elite programs is their core of volunteers and fan base. It is being utilized to its fullest. From the sounds of the comments on this thread, it is obvious you have attempted helping in the above ways and that is why you are so frustrated and choose to belittle the program from behind a screen name. Because you have been turned down by the coaches and administrators due to their lack of wanting to win. And since you have tried the above and been turned away, you have no other means of helping other than being incognito. Again, let me know what has been accomplished so far and if possible, I would be more than happy to join you all in your efforts to bring this program to the Elite of the Elite. Thanks, Jeff Martin

I dislike anyone who hides behind a screen name and talks mess about a program. Someone who has bled on the mat would never do that... Ever. And what the hell do you mean elite? How many HS championships do you need to be elite? 4? Got a few of them last year. 3? Got that a few times too.

Ok bud. I see you now. Your a hater. Since I am fairly new here I need to see true colors. Thanks for showing them. You keep hating and I will keep supporting. Purdue beat us, so you should go hang out with those guys... Peace

Lmao! Only bright spots was the seniors ehh? Not the true 125 lb freshman who hit the blast double off the line with 5 seconds left in his match? Or the redshirt freshman 165 lber who avenges an early season drubbing and secures a late TD himself and rides the last 30 secds for the win either? The dual was exciting to the finish. We gave up a pin at 141 and even there we battled as it was 5-1 with four seconds left before the pin. We lost. But drubbing is not the case.

I'm not sure it matters Bronx. Iowa gets away with being "tuff" so I think any team that feels the need to either show that they are tuff or protect their own.. Is all good. The tougher IU gets in that department the better imho. Terry is a stud, but I wouldn't mind if Nick slapped him upside the head for any disrespect towards him or his wrestlers.. If your gonna dish it out, then be ready to accept repercussion.

Weaver will know this week if he needs surgery. I'm not sure why Goldman got a day off, but I can tell you just about every one of the starters have had days off as well. Probably keeping the kids fresh heading into the post season. And Terry was being Terry and his kids were being his kids.. IU didn't back down, gotta appreciate that at least.

Goldman: Day off Weaver has a injury that may require surgery. Simmons: If the Brands boys are going to talk mess to our coaches and wrestlers and think it's all good... It's awesome that we have a coach with some balls to give it right back. Simple change in culture and it's made us tougher certainly.

Jackson wins 7-6. Great match.

I never mentioned SIUE or Manchester. We should always be ahead of those teams. But EMU blanked MSU and was ranked way ahead of us... And IU handled them. Regardless, IU is better than they've been in a while and that's refreshing. Hopefully they can keep getting better.