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  1. Jeff, Harrison and Mccutcheon are all big schools but just can't seem to get up to the next level yet. Bobo I would agree that coach atwood at delphi built a pretty strong team for being a small school for several years and has turned out some pretty solid wrestlers they the years although they seem to be tapering off quickly. Looks like some of the Logan regional boys got perfect draws and some got worst case scenario draws. Good luck to all of em. No easy matches left this year.
  2. I got to watch the LJ sectional Saturday. I saw a couple of guys that looked ready to punch their ticket to the big show and I saw some not quite ready for the task. Some guys may have been having a slow start, not sure. Goodluck to all of em.
  3. From my experiences speaking with a few college coaches especially from out of state, you try explaining that your underclassmen from a small school made it to the state tourney a couple times but lost by a point on Friday night so he doesn't get to wrestle again, while opponents you beat previously got a better draw and wrestle on to place because they won the Friday night match.......they have real difficulty understanding that it's a one and done on Friday night. Most I talked to don't understand the single class system. They are looking for kids who prove they can win some matches at that point in the season. Doesn't matter too much that you beat state champions from other states in the off-season if it's not something they happen to see. I think we should class our tourney but we really need to have wrestle backs either way but dang sure if we don't class it out. And yes by the time your wrestler finishes his senior season most of the D1 programs already have filled the roster so it doesn't much matter at that point to them. The Smaller colleges are still looking for that last one or two to fill gaps. The smaller high schools in Indiana are generally located in rural areas where kids have long drives sometimes 1-2 hours to get to an RTC or club to practice in the off season. It's hard to find parent's that can afford the money or time to haul their kids that far to be able to be competitive. It's hard to find small schools that can afford to put together an off season team to travel and get more mat time to places like Disney, Virginia Beach, etc.. Unless a kid gets really lucky and a bigger program with a giving coach from out of your area knows you exist and needs a fill in on one of those teams, they won't get those opportunities. If those kinds of opportunities aren't important then why are all of the most successful schools fielding teams? How do schools with no wrestling rooms that roll mats on the gym floor daily to practice or tiny undersized storage closet conversions and share a one or two station "weight room" with the other teams compete with schools that have multi-mat wrestling rooms and weight rooms that are as long as a gym? And for the work harder crowd...... I watched one of our local wrestlers get up at 4 am travel to work on a hog farm, get off work and go to work bailing hay and straw painting houses and anything else he could find so he could drive the 1.5-2 hrs one way in the evenings to get to an RTC or a wrestling club and drive that far home during the summer. During the school year he would go to work early in the mornings before school then to class, then practice and sometimes to work after practice if he didn't get done before school or didn't work before school. Other kids couldn't believe he put that much into wrestling to have a chance of being a state champion. Kids everywhere work I understand that. But dang few kids work that hard, and that kid is one of many around the state that are doing their best to get better, so don't tell them to"work harder".........There are so many kids out there in these small rural schools working dang hard to be a state champion with limited resources and opportunities. I believe many of them work just as hard or harder than most........just my two cents
  4. I hope someone lets those young ladies know about the great comments they are getting. I was speechless when they were done and I had some old hard cases sitting by me......none of them could speak for a minute when they got done either. Truly amazing
  5. That was an awesome job those young ladies did!!!! WOW!
  6. I have had to explain to a few out of state college coaches recently that Indiana does not have a classed system or wrestle backs in the tourney at any point. They just don't understand either concept very well. What they really can't believe is that our Friday night is a one and done and no wrestle backs and that losing in the semi final means you are third at best......
  7. Don't get me started on the Varsity B thing, in every other IHSAA sport Varsity B is called JV. They don't play on Friday night. You have 1 winner of a varsity wrestle off.....period. Call em what you want but they ain't your number one wrestler. If you are not the wrestle off winner that week, you ain't varsity.
  8. So your example shows Walton wrestles Andrew Davison well in a folkstyle match........problem is Walton does not have to wrestle Andrew Davison............
  9. Inflated records can be an issue. Happens every year at sectional and even regular season tourneys. Some kid comes in on a great record and can not even get out of the first round against a decent wrestler. The issue is that many times you end up with the two better wrestlers on the same side of the bracket.....Unfortunately there will always be people of questionable honesty and ethics involved in everything. Like every time a wrestler meets up in dual competition with a very heavily favored opponent, the coach holds them out and throws in a JV kid, week after week, the only losses the starter takes are in tournaments, sure helps the overall record....Or claiming you beat a common opponent in a seeding meeting when you actually never wrestled them to improve your wrestler's seed, or seeding a kid with a bunch of "Varsity B" wins, then scratching him on Saturday and replacing him with your Varsity A kid because you didn't want to be seeded where you would of been originally with Varsity A..........
  10. 106 1 Mcartney, 2 Coon, 3 Webb 113 1 Johnson 120 1 White, 2 Anderson, 126 1 Watson, 2 Porter 132 1 Strawsma 138 1 Lukaszka 145 1Jones 152 1 Widner, 2 Grammer 160 1 Hart, 2 Ingle, 3 Gonzalez 170 1 Mote, 2 Aho, 3 Kolouch 182 1 Mathis, 2 Munson, 3 Gary 195 1 Embery, 2 Kidwell, 3 Moore 220 1 Crider, 2 Trent, Baldwin 285 1 Clark, 2 Rogers
  11. 120.....White over Anderson in a tight one, Ragen/Betourne is a coin toss for 3/4.
  12. Changing brackets to insure the best two meet in the finals is a slippery slope........in this case there are two heavy favorites. In other weights it is very debatable who the top two are, and who gets that decision????? Changing up the starting weight each year is great idea and would be something to explore in a year or two but I think it's best left there.
  13. Logan regional has several quality wrestlers this year. I think the depth of some of the other regionals this year could make for some bad draws for some of the better Logan guys. With bad draws I think they get 4 out. With good draws 8 or 9. I hope I'm wrong and its much higher but it's going to be tough as usual, two or three highly ranked very tough guys coming from one regional makes for the high probability of a really bad draw.
  14. Unranked at 285 clark of Delphi over #3 Perkins of oak hill by fall.
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