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Does anyone have the team score from that 2003 MD team? That is obviously the record high (or would be if that record were kept), but I haven't seen what their final score was.

The class breakdowns are not the same as the ones used in football. There are only three classes as opposed to the five used in football. The precise breakdown of the schools is listed somewhere on this board, and 1A does include all of those schools.

I am not there so I can't confirm any results, but if you look at the brackets these two would meet in match 237 to see who wrestles for 3rd & 4th. So, yes, if these results are accurate, that would mean that Kemper would not be going to regionals.

Anyone have team scores? Number of those qualifying by school? And last, what time do finals begin?

So the ACTUAL STATISTICS show that if Mater Dei is recruiting, they must be going after 4 or 5 year olds to draw them into the feeder system. My question is, why don't they recruit better wrestlers? Their wrestlers are rarely dominant in the individual state tourney, and MD has never produced a wrestler that went on to be dominant in college. In fact, VERY few MD wrestlers have gone on to wrestle varsity at the D1 college level -- I am guessing around 5, but that may be high. As the above poster pointed out, this team is not made up of elite wrestler-athletes. If they recruit, they do a very poor job.

Did you forget to actually post the brackets, coach Struck? I still don't see them anywhere.

Poor turnout would be a surprise. Sloppy wrestling would not. MD made it to state in football, so quite a few of their wrestlers have only been on the mat a few weeks. Where is this tourney? MD used to pack in the fans no matter where the venue.

It doesn't seem like MD is very active on this board. The scores of their tourney last week haven't been posted yet, either. I would really like to see the individual results, but even the team scores would be nice. Anyone? ???

I thought the same thing and checked into that. It looks like MD and Merriville are going to two different tournaments in St. Louis this year, unless one of the schools has their athletic calendar wrong. They usually met at the Gateway duals, but Merriville's website says they are going to the Christian Brothers HS tourney this year.

So he is not starting from scratch. I don't see any Southern Indiana 195's ranked at this point. I wonder if he will face any high quality opponents early that could provide a "talent-gauge". Anyone have any input on other 195's that will face Maurer during the season?

Looks like MD is picking up what should be a great addition: http://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/dec/07/30pt-hed3-10-inches-p-herey-herey/ Dane Maurer, brother of 4-timer Blake, has decided to join the wrestling team this year, and Blake is back as an assistant. It will be interesting to see how he does. He is a heck of an athlete. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at Conseco.

I understand your intent to eliminate bias, but "blind" selection would lead to a lot more mistakes than bias would. There is a reason EMD, Mishawaka, Bellmont et al return to team state nearly every year, even when they only return 5 or 6 starters. They are well established, deep programs, and their reserves could most often be wrestling varsity on other squads. Just to illustrate, if you took the name "Mater Dei" off and reported that a team had only 1 returning state place-winner and 2 other qualifiers, that team wouldn't even be under consideration for an invitation. But is there anyone who really thinks Mater Dei won't be in the top 6 or 8 teams of their class this year?

It seems to me that Coach Snyder really takes issue with the with the "one invite every three years" rule, and Coach Peck is saying that this rule can be taken out as soon as year 2. I have to agree with Coach Snyder. If that rule is in place, the tournament will not determine the best team in the state, nor even the most probable best team (as a top 8 ranked, invite only tourney would do). With the "one invite every three years" rule in place, the tourney doesn't really offer much. Top flight teams could go to better tourneys elsewhere. And if the rule could be changed in year 2, why include it in the first place? Why undermine the whole reason for having this tournament by injecting a rule that is so pointless that you are willing to discard it in year 2? What, really, do you gain by including it?

The team that generates the most interest -- Mater Dei -- just finished its football season yesterday. I don't think anyone has information about personnel, weights, etc. yet. There just isn't much to talk about.

For those who will come on this discussion down the road, when Fearless Fly posted this, he had "666" as is post total, and 6 cool points. So, Fearless Fly bears the mark of the beast and his opinion should be considered in that light. That picture being right under the 666 really adds to the effect. Too funny! [FF -- I hope you know I'm not serious]