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  1. 40 points
    ZachsDad

    Zach Melloh Family

    Dear 138 pound weight class at state finals, Congrats to all of you, lots of fierce competitors, and you should all be proud! Wrestling is the ultimate teacher of life lessons, so learn what you can from your experience! Kris Rumph You are a great wrestler and competitor and your interview showed some great character. You have overcome a lot in life and I hope you understand that your wrestling achievements can transfer to anything you chose to pursue in life. The Melloh family will look forward to seeing good things for you in the future, and will say a special prayer for Kris Rumph today at church. Looking forward to rooting for you, not against you! Blake Mulkey You are an awesome wrestler. Blake, you have a great wrestling future, and we wish you the best. Sometimes things don’t go your way, it will make you stronger if you let it. Dawson Combest We wish you the best at Uindy. It truly seems like yesterday that you and Zach were battling it out for ISWA state finals. I miss those days already. Uindy is getting a good one and we know you will do great in wrestling and school. Count your blessings son, you have an awesome support group with Columbus East wrestling family! That’s a good group! I will always hold Coach Trapp in high regard..... I saw how much he did for you guys with the youth program. What a great guy and mentor! Lastly, to my son, Zach Melloh With tears of pride, I want to tell you that I love you and I am so proud of you. My sadness only comes from knowing this chapter is over. I didn’t appreciate the ride like I should have while I was living it.......through wrestling, you have helped us grow as a family and expand our faith. So few people know what you have been through to get to where you were yesterday. But God does and your family does, and we are proud to call you our son and your siblings are proud of their brother. Part of trying to live a Christ centered life means that sometimes the target on your back gets bigger. It’s ok, keep fighting the good fight. Keep grinding and doing the right things in life. With a heart full of pride for the young man you have become, looking forward to the next chapter. Your biggest fan club, Dad, Mom, Corinne, Alex, and Cecelia (Nick Melloh)
  2. 33 points
    Kookie953

    Confession Time

    So time to take a quick break and provide a distraction to the loaded regional and SS talk. My son is new to the sport...it was a little over a year ago that he decided he wanted to give wrestling a try. Something about watching kids under the lights at Bankers Life in 2015 provided that spark. So as a 5th grader he started on his journey. After a bit of research, we learned about Red Cobra and he’s been in that sweat box ever since...and most nights I’m also spending a few hours listening to Coach Red bark instructions to all the kids. Now true confession time...I never wreslted myself and frankly thought wrestlers were an odd bunch growing up. One dude I knew in Junior High covered his singlet in deer attractant as an “advantage”. Another kid claimed to rub onions on his pits and “area”. I was a basketball player and that was my love...I wasn’t tough enough to wrestle even though I considered myself a tough guy. So needless to say, I knew next to nothing when my kid started and know just a tiny bit more now. More recent confession, during our first few meets man some parents were going insane during a match while I just saw some kids leaning on each other. My inner monologue said “dude, what’s those people’s issue? They’re some real nut-jobs.” Fast forward to today, and a solid year of Coach Red training has not only helped my kid but also his old man that’s been sweating profusely on the other side of the partition while Coach Red instructs like only he can. What I didnt know is that I was getting C-Red Trained too. Now I find myself automatically and instinctively barking stuff like “Get Your HEAD UP!!!” And “UP AND OUT!!!” Or “GET THAT TIGHT AND SQUUUEEEEZE!!!” Or “God gave you two hands SO USE THEM!!” Its like I can’t control it. So to all you parents before that I was secretly being real judgey towards in my head, because y’all were losing your minds (or so I thought)...my bad. To all you beginner parents wondering why the big dude in purple is losing his mind in the future....you’ll get it one day. One thing I’ve learned while my boy has really embraced and taken to this sport and the process...if you’re the parent of one of these high schoolers that’s putting it all out there in the coming weeks, then really be proud of it and where you are. Make sure to take a moment and take it in. Be proud they’re there regardless of outcome. Unlike any other, wrestling is an awesome sport that requires some real courage to even walk out there on that mat. Sometimes it takes the eyes of a newbie to bring the obvious into focus. Good luck to all competitors and teams as each step gets a little tougher. I’m glad I’m here...and I’m glad my son has chosen to be a wrestler. <Pound Sign>HendricksCountySmellsFunny #PainTrain #PoundSign
  3. 24 points
    Darrick Snyder

    Melloh and Mulkey

    1.) Congrats to Cathedral. I’m not sure anyone who hasn’t been through it truly understands how hard it is to win an Individual State Title let alone a Team State Championship. 2.) I didn’t cuss or anything like that. I was booted and deserved to be because I left the mat and came back screaming again. I was told that by Mr. Faulkens. 3.) I know I shouldn’t have come back on the mat. Thanks to him for allowing me to stay in back of venue. I lost it and would hope I could keep my compusure in the future. I’ve never been tossed out before that I remember. I deserved it. I’ve already told my assistants to pull me from the mat. I don’t see this situation repeating itself, though 4.) I am not ever going to sacrifice a kid’s dream of a state title. Brayton Lee is the ONLY kid I have ever coached that I told I must have bonus points from at Individual State. Probably the first and last. He’s special. I never worried about my actions causing a team title. We are a family here. I was able to meet with my team since Mr. Faulkens allowed me To stay in the venue. I told them I was sorry I was unable to corner them. (FYI I don’t corner BLee. Ayersman negotiated that.) Lol. Immediately, Nathan Walton said, “Coach you have prepared us and we would want you to do the same thing for each of us.” 5.) I was out of control and returned to the mat after waking off. That equals getting tossed. I have no issue with it. Most people hate me. That fuels me and our program. I have enough friends and I’m not looking to win a popularity contest. As long as the Mishawaka And Brownsburg Wrestlers and fans love me that’s what I care about. Talk to them. I have 100% administrative support here, which I have never had before. 6.) Why did I lose it even though i shouldn’t have? It is NOT an opinion or judgement call. In the casebook - look it up - it literally says the front-headlock position is a stalemate. It’s cut and dry. Not debatable. It was the wrong call. Period. Doesn’t matter if we were snapping or trying to score. Makes no difference. Says stalemate. Watch the film. Blake is my guy. He is facing me in 30 second OT. Im snapping to mat. He does exactly what I tell him to do. I know the rules. Then, it costs him a chance for his state title. I care about my wrestlers. Our system is messed up. I could not care less about a team title then. I care about Blake and his goal. If he and they win, we win. 7.) It is what it is. Cathedral was freaking impressive. Blake’s opponent is a stud and seems like an outstanding young man. Just like Blake. I probably shouldn’t post, but I will. Discussing wrestling I think is good for our sport and my thoughts are always open for anyone. Snyder
  4. 23 points
    Badger

    Great wrestler

    I just wanted to recognize a great wrestler with great sportsmanship. Jed Levitz from Prairie Heights. He fell short of going back to state for a 3rd time. After his lost he was a class act, handling it like a true champion,shaking hands and congratulating the other wrestler 2 times. A great example of what wrestling and a great coaching staff has taught this young man. Congratulations on a awesome high school wrestling career.
  5. 20 points
    Brian

    Most to Semi-State?

    No, it's just one day.
  6. 17 points
    Perseverance

    Worst draw

    Great point Jeremy. It aligns with Silas and I's philosophy to a "T". Being fairly new to the sport of wrestling compared to many on this site (7yrs). I would grow a little more perturbed every year as I would hear parents/coaches/wrestlers complaining about draws, or hoping they had an easy road through. I can tell you this......that was rarely an issue with the Doah coaches. Slivka, Gary Jr & Sr each had a "bring it on mentality". Being cut from that similar cloth, is a major factor of our growing so close off the mat as well. I'll only add that Coach Barbosa has carried on that same approach. It comes natural for him being from the south side of Muncie. ? Assistant Coach Walker is no different. The Allred outlook is simple......Those who worry about the draw are entertaining fear & self doubt. Hoping for an easy path is reserved for individuals whose bartering for podium spots. Not for those whose goal is its peak. Cressel & Walton are both very deserving of all the recognition and success they've worked so hard for. They're well coached and their college commitments speak for themselves. However.....these are matches we've wanted all season. But we'll focus on beating Moore Friday night first. Bottom line......We love the draw. Awesome opportunity to make a LOUD statement! And they'll be dealing with a hungry youngster whose well prepared, well studied, unafraid to lose.....and wrestling free with no pressure. The best 182lb'er in the State will stand on top of the podium this weekend regardless of their bracket pairings. And it could be any 1 of 16 young men in the bracket. We genuinely wish everyone competing a great week of practice, continued good health and to just enjoy the moment. Go to war, have fun and score points. Never lose sight of how much of a blessing it is to be there.
  7. 16 points
    Darrick Snyder

    Wrestlebacks Poll

    Here’s my opinion: If we want wrestlebacks from the IHSAA, do NOT argue a kid gets caught or has a bad match. They say we aren’t valuing the effort and performance of the kid had who pulled the upset. Focus on the ridiculous draws that puts two placers against each other. At Mishawaka Joey Smith beats Trace Hall of SB Riley in triple OT I believe to win the Regional. We had lost to him like 3 times that year. Our reward is we draw into Galka of Hobart who had been injured precious week. Hall places at state and we lose in ticket round 3-2. Even better one: Trent Reinoehl beats Young of CMA in OT to win regional. Churchard of Valpo and Roach of Crown Point are In same regional. Our reward? We draw roach in ticket round and lose 3-2. Chrurchard gets first, roach 2nd and young 3rd at state while we sit in the stands. If we are ever going to get wrestlebacks, it’s my opinion that these situations must be focus. Don’t even bring up someone getting caught. IHSAA will use that against us. Snyder
  8. 15 points
    Nick Dewig

    Boards about to die down

    Consistent updates from your dating experiences
  9. 15 points
    Man I hope so! As his dad, I know my son would never lose if “karma” was an actual thing! Lol! Did he overreact? Yeah, maybe. He also immediately felt regret and without prompting took it upon himself (remember a 16 year old kid) to go speak to Hobart’s coaches, Tylor, Tylor’s parents, our coaches, his teammates, his family, and others. You need to remember that Tylor (AWESOME KID AND FAMILY!) and Brock have been very good friends, teammates and wrestling partners for years at RWA. Brock was extremely excited to win against someone he has so much respect for. My son...no I’m sorry....my CHILDREN have been raised to be respectful and humble, and both are. I couldn’t be prouder of Brock, the man he is becoming, the student he is, the friend he is, the brother he is, the teammate he is, and the fact that wrestler doesn’t even come close to the top of the list of great things he is! He also would like it pointed out he squished a bug off his shoulder, not a “cigarette” lol! Man I also really hope your “karma” comes back twice as hard on him this week! Thanks for the motivation too! Love the Peele Family!
  10. 14 points
    Hornet Coach

    Who impressed you the most

    Fattore impressed me the most and it had nothing to do with his wrestling. This young man carried himself like a champion after a questionable call. Nicely done young man!
  11. 14 points
    FIREPROOF

    Who's in,who's out

    Actually, I'll reply to this post since I happen to be one of the parents of this particular individual. First of all, I will be the first to say that before this season ever started and Myles was going back and forth on whether not he was going to wrestle, the only thing we asked of him was that if he did indeed start the season that he finished it as that is all we've ever asked of any of our kids. We didn't "allow" him to quit the team. He is almost 19 years old and unfortunately he is technically an "adult". As his parents, there's not a whole heck of a lot we can do! Believe me there have been numerous people, past/present coaches, administrators, mentors, that have tried talking to him. We have literally done all we could to try to get him to complete the season. It's easy to point fingers and say "why would they", "how could they"? Sometimes as parents our hands are tied. We have to let them fail on their own, allow them to make those "adult" decisions and pay the consequences. There's no doubt that he will regret this decision one day. We don't support or agree with his decision but we will love him regardless. If this past year had taught me anything, it's this. I will never again say "that won't be my kid" or "why didn't those parents do something about it" because now we are "those parents".
  12. 13 points
    Y2CJ41

    Wow - Fattore pinned himself!

    Fattore was spotted warming up with Rader before the finals. Not sure I have ever seen two guys that just wrestled in the semi-finals warm up with each other.
  13. 13 points
    GWCoach

    3x middle school champ

    My wrestler was excited to get a chance to wrestle him finally. Said it was the best :11 he had on the mat all year.
  14. 13 points
    This chart shows # of Top-20 state ranked guys per weight per regional. Total for each regional at the end 106 113 120 126 132 138 145 152 160 170 182 195 220 285 1. Hobart 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 4 1 26 2. Crown Point 1 3 0 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 0 2 18 3. Penn 1 1 1 3 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 1 0 4 19 4. Logansport 1 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 6 5. Goshen 1 0 1 3 1 3 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 15 6. Carroll (Fort Wayne) 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 2 3 2 1 3 2 1 19 7. Peru 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 1 6 8. Jay County 2 2 0 1 1 1 3 2 1 1 0 0 1 1 16 9. North Montgomery 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 2 1 2 1 15 10. Pendleton Hts 2 2 2 0 1 4 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 24 11. Perry Meridian 2 2 2 2 3 1 3 1 1 3 1 2 2 0 25 12. Richmond 0 1 1 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 2 1 1 1 12 13. Mooresville 3 2 3 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 1 3 5 36 14. Bloomington South 2 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 2 2 0 0 12 15. Jeffersonville 0 1 1 1 2 1 1 0 1 3 0 1 0 0 12 16. Evansville North 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 3 3 0 2 0 2 0 19
  15. 12 points
    eastdad18

    Zach Melloh Family

    Nick and Zach We have nothing but the ultimate amount of respect and appreciation for you and your family.. it does seem just like yesterday that Zach and Daws battled as youngsters, Zach always pushed Dawson to be better and share a special friendship.. Zach is a outstanding young man way past being a outstanding wrestler.. Purdue got the total package in Zach .. We will be cheering and following him and his career... Blake Mulkey Thank you for being such a great kid and bringing out the best in the Columbus East opponents (especially Daws) , after the matches were over , you were back to always joking and being a good kid to be around ...We wish you nothing but the best with your next stop ... Kris Rumph The semifinals was the first time that Daws got to wrestle you but of course we had heard so much about your ability and skills , you didn’t disappoint on your showing on that big stage.. Dawson said that was the most fun he ever had in a match , of course I was beyond nervous but you both pushed each to overtime coming up with the win .. Congratulations to you and your family... This weight class was very deep and talented .. Every round , it seemed like we had a ranked wrestler with a competitive spirit to the end .. it was truly a life experience and privilege to be in the mix.. The Combest Family
  16. 12 points
    1prouddad

    Thanks

    As the finals have concluded, I'd like to thank all the wrestlers that participated this year and entertained us fans. Congratulations to this years Champs. Also want to thank the guys doing this site. Your rankings and info is top notch. To the Seniors, I wish you the best in your next journey. Hell of a season gents.
  17. 12 points
    New Jersey has a public and non public state championship. So two classes. Heres a list in alphabetical order of states without wrestlebacks. 1. Indiana
  18. 11 points
    Speaking solely from a 1A selfish standpoint. If wrestling became classed......I'd likely transfer my son to a larger school. Because in my opinion.....without a "Tournament of Champions", most of the time kids from the larger schools would be perceived as better. Yes......I realize national accolades would separate a wrestlers worth to recruiters. However....I personally feel a 1 class system is one of the beauties of this sport here at home. In regards to a wrestler becoming more successful......they simply need to have the hunger & drive to accomplish those things. My personal feeling......is that there is no difference between a kid at a small school vs a kid at a larger school in regards to becoming "elite". You have the same opportunities at open rooms, club training, ISWA events, national events, etc. Ultimately it's a choice. How hard is a kid willing to work on & off the mat at ALL the attributes that define a great athlete.....and not just someone whose athletic. Now, becoming "good" is a different story. Having better practice partners in season, larger room (more partners), wrestling a tougher schedule, etc., will all play a factor in kids who primarily wrestle from Nov to Jan/Feb. in distancing themselves from peers at smaller programs. But that's a much different animal than truly pursuing future wrestling goals. Ill be the first to admit I don't have all the answers. And I'm sure it could possibly help grow the sport some on a lower level. But I'm fairly confident that "classing" things would create an influx of your better wrestlers (including youth) beginning to gravitate more towards larger programs. Again....this is just my perspective on one facet of "class wrestling". I understand that there are other angles that I've not spoken on. But ultimately.....this is an individual sport within a team concept. So weakening competition so more kids can be successful who aren't putting in the work.....seems counter-productive to everything this sport stands for. Of which....is a major reason an old baseball guy like me has fallen in love with it. No excuses....and nobody to blame but the man in the mirror.
  19. 11 points
    ontherise219

    Matchups you want to see

    Mason parris vs gable steveson @brownsburg high school
  20. 10 points
    navy80

    most impressive TODAY??

    Brayden Curtis is probably the most impressive. every match he is helping the kids up etc. very good sportsmanship!
  21. 10 points
    Caleb Spires

    Melloh and Mulkey

    Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I too call stalling in that situation. Over 20 seconds of holding a front headlock just riding out a one point lead is stalling, no matter what stage you’re on.
  22. 10 points
    Y2CJ41

    Melloh and Mulkey

    Good coaches will always fight for their kids. I would probably think a little less of a coach who didn't get kicked out in that situation.
  23. 10 points
    Mattyb

    Biggest upsets ?

    Yea... that was a tough one! Proud of my guy had a solid run. Just wrestled a bad match. Mahan did great. Back to the drawing board and practice on Monday! Good luck to all the placers! Feel bad for Tiranas too. Great family.
  24. 9 points
    Caleb Spires

    How about those wrestlebacks?

    Rutter lost at regionals, and the wrestler he lost to was pinned by the third place out of Goshen... is it really “clear” he should be state bound?
  25. 9 points
    By JEREMY HINES thehines7@gmail.com There’s cool, and then there’s Jack Eiteljorge cool. The Carmel senior wrestler may even be too cool. “Jack’s the guy I want to do my heart surgery because he’s as cool as a cucumber,” Greyhound coach Ed Pendoski said. “He doesn’t get rattled by anything. But, that’s one of the things we are trying to work on this year. I want him having emotion. We’ve talked to him about how sometimes you have to have emotion, whether it be positive or negative.” Just how cool is Eiteljorge? “He’s so cool that you could sit him down and tell him that someone just walked into his house and killed his dog, Bacon. His reply would be, ‘Oh, OK.’,” Pendoski said. “You could tell him that Taylor Swift is in the hot tub and wants to make out with him, and he’d say ‘Oh, OK’.” Eiteljorge is currently ranked No. 2 in the state at 160 pounds. He is a three times sectional and regional champion, but he has never punched his ticket to state. Pendoski thinks opening up and getting a little emotional may be the edge that Eiteljorge needs to finally get to state - and possibly win. “Going into this year, after the Super 32, we had just had two pretty bad losses,” Pendoski said. “We really started dialing in on our mental part. He’s done a good job reacting to that. The phrase we use a lot is that mental toughness is the ability to manage the thoughts in your head. We went back to that simple platform. We talked to him about getting excited. We said let’s get angry. Let’s be happy. Show something.” The plan has worked. Eiteljorge is 33-2. He has pinned or tech falled all of his opponents in the state tournament except for one, and that match he won 18-8. “I’ve been trying to show emotion,” Eiteljorge said. “Coach wants me to, and he has a lot of muscle so I listen to him. He feels that sometimes I’m like a robot on the mat. He wants me to just start having fun. I’ve really been working on that part. It’s a big change from past years. Making myself be less methodical is the key. I have to go out there and make the matches fun.” Eiteljorge isn’t one of the kids that found immediate success in the sport of wrestling. When he was young and just started going to CIA, Pendoski’s wrestling academy, he was the guy getting beat up on. “Jack was in a group with some very, very good wrestlers,” Pendoski said. “He was the beginner. The partners he was with had been around for years and were winning championships. I think Jack went two or three months before he even scored a point. But, he was the guy that would stick around after practice and do pull-ups or pushups.” Eventually he won his first club level state tournament. Pendoski says that was a turning point for him. “That’s the day I knew this little ankle-biter would be OK one day,” Pendoski said. “It was nice to see a guy that started from the beginning, worked his tail off and then started to see the results.” Eiteljorge lost in the first round of semistate his freshman year. As a sophomore and a junior he lost in the ticket round. “This year my goal is to win state,” Eiteljorge said. “My goal is not just to get to state. But, I still know there will be a pressure on me to get past the ticket round. If I win that match, I’ll certainly feel a weight has been lifted.” Eiteljorge isn’t one to talk about personal successes, he’s too cool to brag. But, he’s more than willing to gush about his teammates. “I have really good teammates,” he said. “They are awesome. I love hanging out with them. Carmel’s team chemistry is what helps us be a top program. We are always improving. We have a casual, playful environment. We have fun. But when it’s time to get serious we focus and get the job done.” Next season Eiteljorge will wrestle for the University of Indianapolis. “The University of Indianapolis is going to be real happy with the product they are getting with Jack,” Pendoski said. View full article
  26. 9 points
    There have been a ton of interesting topics and threads about the subjects listed in my title...every year they come up. We are a very passionate group and I think we all agree that wrestling needs to grow. From my little perch in Rochester, Indiana here is my 2 cents...which my step-dad always used to say "Wouldn't buy me a cheap cup of coffee"...so take it as you will. 1. I am a class supporter...both individual and team. I don't think it will solve every problem but I do believe, in my heart, it will affect the numbers of our sport and more kids will participate and benefit from wrestling. Yes basketball is classed and viewing numbers have dropped BUT, at Rochester, basketball still has a full varsity, a full JV, and a full freshman team. People may not attend as much as they used to, but kids are still playing. No offense to our basketball coaches, but we aren't very good and about 5-6 of those kids should really be wrestling. I believe that those individuals wrestling in a state championship tournament from a Class 1A or 2A school, will bring notoriety to their school, be talked to by college coaches, and ultimately attract kids to give it a shot...especially at the younger levels. 2. We are fighting a bigger battle than class wrestling and that is a societal change from our youth programs to the HS Seniors. I love kids, love teaching them, and love coaching them...but the fact is there aren't has many kids to choose from now days that are willing to do what you have to do to just be on the team. I'm not talking about wrestling varsity. I'm talking about just being on the team. Very few young men want to endure the physicality of wrestling to wrestle JV. Kids are used to getting it now or hitting the "reset" button and being able to start over when they lose. Wrestling requires a ton of work to get what one wants. Kids don't want to do the work and wait around for 2-3 years to earn their spot...they especially don't want to wrestle year round to have to earn it. While I don't understand that way of thinking, I do recognize it as an issue. 3. I'm going to get crucified for this...We, coaches and lovers of wrestling, have done a really bad job of making our sport fun, marketable, and fan/family friendly to the masses. I include myself in that as well. We wrestle too many all day super duals, two-day 10 ways, and too many matches. At Rochester, we have adjusted our schedule to make it more marketable to kids, families, and fans. This year it helped with attendance and numbers. We had a dual with Northwestern and brought in our elementary and MS teams to wrestle before the HS dual. Had a DJ and spotlights...each kid had their own walk-out song. Nothing but positive feedback. We also took some long Saturday's off of our schedule and put in some week night Quads so kids could have their weekend back. That was a hit with parents. HS season is long...even longer for the elite kids that go year round. Can you imagine how long it is for those kids with a .500 or losing record wrestling every Saturday and going 0-5, 1-4, 2-3 and maybe earning 1-2 wins or getting forfeits? How many more youth events can we host in a year...especially in Folkstyle? We got HYWAY, ISWA (From November to April), Elementary Friendship meets, etc. Yep, I'm guilty as a Coach and a Dad...we take advantage of it. But that doesn't make me right. I started wrestling at 14. Wrestled the HS Season, went to Freestyle and wrestled as much as I could, but it was over in April. Nothing from May to November unless you made a Fargo team. Now there is something EVERY single month of the year to choose from. We want kids to be kids and play other sports but there is something for wrestling EVERY.SINGLE.MONTH. We don't stop. The argument is, and it's valid, the family or coach has to choose and know when to back off. An argument to the argument, and it's valid, is that if it's not available then the family or coach doesn't feel like they need to do it. Our kids also don't feel like they have to choose. I'm NOT advocating that we throw the baby out with the bath water, but coaches and our associations should take a look at how we can retain kids, give them experience, and not have an event EVERY.SINGLE.MONTH!! 4. Bring back the Freestyle and Greco season after the IHSAA State Tournament. If the ISWA won't give up Folkstyle State, then at least look at a different date. HS kids don't have to be included in that. They just wrestled an entire season of folkstyle. Once IHSAA State ends, have 3 weeks off with no tournaments. RTC's open all over Indiana and train exclusively in FS and Greco. Starting in Mid-March, have 5 tournaments on a Saturday or Sunday. One in the North, South, East, West, and Central for 2 consecutive weeks. Then 2 weeks of training. First week within in your RTC, then the second bring 2-3 RTC's together to train. 1 week of tournaments...same as before. Then the State Tournament. Be done in April instead of May. I'm sure this would need tweaking and my weeks might be off...but the idea has merit. 5. This kind of goes along with #3 and all of the folkstyle events for our youth, but I believe we need a true youth season. I'd like to see us go November Practice, December Compete, and have Folkstyle State the same weekend as the ISWA Elementary Duals and then be done with Folkstyle. Janauary...OFF...no wrestling. Start them training in FS and Greco in February, no tournaments. Tournaments start in Mid-March and go to Freestyle State in April. This stuff of going November - December with duals, wrestling state duals over break, then coming right back to the "individual" season from January to March, then freestyle (for those that can't control themselves and just have to do it :)) from March to May...it's kind of ridiculous. We tell our kids that they shouldn't play tackle football year round, we tell our baseball players that they really can't throw year round...but we have kids at 8-9 years old wrestling from October (most practices start) to May. Before you tear me up...just think about that...from October to May. Why is that ok for wrestling but not ok for other sports? I know there are arguments against my points and we have some kids that want to train all the time. I get it. If there would have been year round wrestling in Richmond, Indiana when I was 14, I would have done it. I love it that much. I would have hit the RTC's, the tournaments, everything. But I don't coach me and the majority of our kids and families can't afford to, don't have the time to, or just don't want to train/compete as much as the die hards do. Do the kids who want to train/wrestle year round deserve the chance to do it, yep, and I'm sure we can all find a way for those killers to do that...heck they will anyway. But as a group, wrestling can do better to attract and retain those kids and families that don't. We have pretty much given the masses the ultimatum of either do this to be great or quit...unfortunately I think too many quit. Side note: This doesn't include summer camps, academies, and off season open mats. Just my 2 cents... Ready...GO!
  27. 9 points
    TeamGarcia

    Confession Time

    Dear Sweet Baby Wrestling Gods, at 126 ... please don’t give us a Death Draw at Evansville Semi-State. All the State Champs & Runner Up deserve to prove themselves at State. All...... Crap .... wrong Confession Time & Place .
  28. 9 points
    randalllynch

    Best and Worst Sectionals

    My team is in that sectional and it is night and day to previous years. We have VERY few kids or weight classes that would be considered "top tier", but there are a few good wrestlers that know what there doing (and yest will most likely struggle at the regional), but I do look forward to seeing several weight classes that have kids who are very competitive at this sectional (126, 160, and 285 come to mind quickly) and most of those kids are just as nervous and anxious as those kids preparing for the Avon sectional. More importantly though if you are only looking at the top tier kids, how they do competing with each other, you may be missing a piece of the sport that makes most of us smile especially at sectional. It is the kids seeded 6th or unseeded at sectional who overcomes all odds and their own doubts to place 4th and get to wrestle at regional. Some of them will have achieved their only goal in wrestling after 4 years taking a beating in practice, never even believing they could do it because they wrestled behind a stud or had 5 studs in the sectional. That kid will ll be just as happy (and most likely or more so) than most of the wrestlers who lose in the go round or on Friday night. Weak or strong there is a lot of happiness and tears getting ready to happen on Saturday, but that is what make sectional entertaining and brings a lot of smiles.
  29. 8 points
    parris58

    Multi sport vs wrestling only

    Yea, he runs through them not over them. lol
  30. 8 points
    brodygrant

    State predictions?

    I predict there will be talks of wrestle backs, class wrestling and refs after the State Finals are complete.
  31. 8 points
    JoeCoffey

    All semi states deserve credit

    Actually, it’s leaning as far away as it can from Kentucky
  32. 8 points
    Going over the stats the county stat guru @Indysportsfan has put together. We lock in the rankings before the state tournament every year. 280 wrestler enter the state tournament ranked. Which at the time of sectionals is just recognition of their season. We do not and will not adjust them. Not for injury or bad draws. Of 240 ranked wrestlers we lost 7 going on to semi state. Thank you to everyone who has sent emails and messages. You are so important to the rankings.
  33. 8 points
    maligned

    Wrestlebacks Poll

    I even wonder sometimes if drawing them into "stars knocking off stars too early" isn't beating a dead horse. They have that in all of their other sports tournaments--which is what they insist on comparing us to. I think instead there's an argument to be built that we're NOT being treated like other sports. All other sports have their tournaments conducted in the way states around the country conduct them and in the way their sport's culture dictates--except ours. We're the only ones forced to fit into a box that is completely disassociated from the rest of the season structure and the sport nationally. AND I think we can give examples of other individual sports that have similarities to ours that they don't realize; namely, track, swimming, and gymnastics. In those sports, at each tournament round, we have the best people all together in one space and we find the genuine best and advance them. That's how wrestling works. We never do a tennis-style single elimination tournament, from the youth ranks up through college. Instead, we get everyone in one space and spend a day figuring out the pecking order. It would be silly to get a bunch of swimmers together, randomly draw them into 4 heats, and say each heat winner gets to advance. We're all together at the same pool--let's go ahead and have some prelims and finals and pick the genuine best 4. Wrestling is the same, but they need to be invited to see it outside the "upsets happen" narrative or even the "my star lost too early in the tournament" argument....in my very humble opinion.
  34. 8 points
    Wrestling Scholar

    Wrestlebacks Poll

    You know its like the Geico commercial: some people would rather spill coffee on themselves, Sit on gum or hit their heads on a beam before they would like to save money.
  35. 8 points
    Wanted to share a fellow wrestler's instagram post. Prayers for Michael!
  36. 8 points
    Fabio Jr.

    Best and Worst Sectionals

    When talking about sports there is a chain from good to bad some one has to be bad it's the way the world works
  37. 7 points
    New Castle's Dalton Clouse might possibly be the only person to have a lead on Mason Parris this season. Clouse stepped to the mat, and strategically didn't remind Parris that he hadn't taken his t-shirt off yet. Clouse was awarded the point and the lead. Somehow Parris recovered, but man, what a start for the Trojan senior.
  38. 7 points
    Y2CJ41

    2018 Dream Team Classic April 14

    This is called doing something to showcase the talent in our state and not caring about a jabroni running a fake national tournament. This event will be showcased and promoted on FloWrestling for the whole country to watch.
  39. 7 points
    Holden

    Thank you

    I just wanted to say thank you to the IHSAA, IHSWCA, all the workers and people who have ever had a hand in developing the state finals, and of course, the wrestlers who make the finals so entertaining. I have always loved the wrestling state finals, however, this year had a bigger impact on me. My son is now a 7th grader and wrestling for Greenfield Junior High School. As his father and Coach, I preach doing everything the right way. From his grades, to his character, to his wrestling...I constantly harp on doing them the right way. Watching my son listen to the introductions of so many incredible young men who not only excel on the mat, but in the classroom and as men of character, was priceless for me. I love that we celebrate these athletes the way we do for all to see. I know at least my son is watching! Coach Holden
  40. 7 points
    Y2CJ41

    Melloh and Mulkey

    Once
  41. 7 points
    Westforkwhite

    Melloh and Mulkey

    The front headlock should have been stalemated after 8-10 seconds max when neither wrestler was improving position. That would have left 10-14 seconds for the match to still be decided by the wrestlers. Unfortunately the official didn't call the stalemate and then compounded his mistake by making a more egregious one. Every year this guy makes numerous head scratching calls.
  42. 7 points
    GrecoISU

    Melloh and Mulkey

    Agree. The question is, was he trying to improve his position. If he wasn't, it's stalling. Take everything else out of it. I watched it again. He made zero attempt to improve, and it wasn't being hindered by the other wrestler.
  43. 7 points
    navy80

    Wow - Fattore pinned himself!

    I’m now a fan of Fattore...he handled that loss with class. He didn’t throw a fit or take off running to the locker room.
  44. 7 points
    Clint Gard

    Melloh and Mulkey

    Would you call that in the first period when a kid is riding out a 0-0 score? The situation or score doesn’t dictate when or how stalling should be called. If it’s stalling with :15 left in overtime, then it’s stalling in the first :30 seconds of the first period. It wasn’t stalling...it’s a stalemate. The same call he used in that situation multiple times in that match.
  45. 7 points
    KarlHungus

    Melloh and Mulkey

    Snyder got tossed. I think his actions were mild
  46. 7 points
    fartfry18

    Blake Boarman

    Mike Goebel says, mike Goebel says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.
  47. 7 points
    Here’s some love for heavyweight Garrett Curtis. Just won a semi-state championship after placing 3rd at regionals and 4th at sectionals. Way to go Garrett!
  48. 7 points
    Y2CJ41

    2018 Team State Classification data

    We need to first eliminate teams that enter 6 or less wrestlers at sectional.
  49. 7 points
    Sorry for the late reply! Got stuck watching awful 8th grade boys playing 3vs3 "Roundball" in class. I love how all 8th grade boys think they are the next Curry, Harden, Ball, etc. When none of them are over 5"8 or 150lbs dripping wet. Why cant I get the next Snyder, Burroughs, NaTo, IMAR, etc. Thats right, Got to love Indiana Basketball. When what I should be allowed to teach is the basic fundamental of the greatest sport on earth. Oh wait, I cant because of liability issues. I will stop my rant now and get to my breakdown of the Penn Regional. I am calling it the TRIPLE CROWN OF HORSE RACING THIS WEEK. Sectionals was the tune up race Mishawaka (Lexington Stakes) and Plymouth (Tampa Bay Derby) for the Final Three Races of the year. Regionals (Kentucky Derby), Semi-State (Preakness), and State (Bellmont Stakes). This should be a real tight Race with Three Jockeys looking for the Win, Penn (14), Wawasee (14), and Mishawaka (12) all competing for the "Grand Daddy" at the end of the day a Regional Title! All race results will be in no particular order. Lets Start with the 1st Race of the day: Post Time 9:30am 106- Two great young horses looking to mix it up. Should be a great race with the winner setting themselves up nicely for the "Preakness" next weekend. Jace Alexander- Wawasee 35-2 Andrew Sinkovics- Mishawaka 28-5 Hunter Boynton- Penn 14-7 Dominic Smith- Plymouth 26-9 Dark Horse Gate 15 Maxx Szucs Clay 24-11 Post-Time 9:45am 113- This will be a very interesting race but I think all four horse will come from the Lexington Stakes Brendon Mark Mishawaka- 26-3 Evan Light Penn 24-9 Trevor Penrod Riley 25-5 David Hudson Washington 14-4 Dark Horse Gate 1- D'Angelo Shumpert Triton 29-4 Got to Get out of Gates Early Hudson Washington vs Shumpert Triton Penrod- Riley vs Romo Wawasee Post Time 9:55am 120- Calling this race will be tight with only three real horses looking to reach the finish line first. Cant call it a photo finish but which horse will stand tall at the end. Setting themselves up for the Preakness next weekend! Chris Schuller Wawasee- 28-2 Vince Sparrow Penn- 22-12 Alex Coleman- CMA 29-8 Todd Hardy- Washington 26-12 Post Time 10:10am' 126- Get those binoculars out and watch the finish of this race. Of the top three horses in this race anyone could win on any given day. Glad I paid top dollar to sit at the finish line for the weekend. Some Horse is setting themselves up at next weekends Preakness. The other three will have to find a way to workout of a tough gate next weekend. Remember these are in NO PARTICULAR ORDER! Granddaddy RACE OF THE DAY! Joey Zahl Adams 23-8 Zane DeVault Plymouth 35-4 Tanner DeMien Penn 25-7 Braxton Alexander Wawasee 34-2 Dark Horse Lane 12 Dawson Leed LaVille 23-3 Out of the Gate Zahl Adans vs Leed LaVille Post Time 10:20am 132- This is a two horse race from what I have seen this year. Two "Studs" have set themselves apart. Need to battle tough anything can happen! Germia Brooks- Wawasee 31-2 Manzona Bryant- CMA 29-0 Gabe Weeks- Mishawaka 26-5 Logan Hill- 26-9 Dark Horse Gate 1 Nate Riggin Triton 30-5 Out of Gate Riggin Triton vs Hill Penn Post Time 10:30 138- The 5th race of the day here at the Derby is another interesting race. If I was a betting man (which Im not) I would bet a trifecta on this race, with the top three horses setting themselves apart from the field. But a young horse may surprise some people in this race. Dont think he has enough to place top 3. Adam Davis CMA 33-0 Preston Risner Penn 26-8 Garrett Stuckman Wawasee 30-6 Drew Mason Mishawaka 18-13 Dark Horse Gate 2 Nick Felke LaVille 24-2 Out of the Gate Mason Mishawaka vs Felke LaVille Post Time 10:40am 145- This is really a one horse field. This horse has stood out all year long. I would take the bet on this horse winning the race and play the odds. The other three horses will be looking for places 2-4. Jacob LaPlace- Mishawaka 33-3 Gavin Banks Plymouth 31-8 Isaiah Faroute- Wawasee 18-12 Jeffery Harper Penn 24-9 Dark Horse Gate 4 Elijah Peck CMA 30-6 OUT OF THE GATE Harper Penn vs Peck CMA Post Time 10:50am 152- I am a betting man here and will take the parlay here. These three horses will be in a race till the end. It might not be a photo finish but it will be tight till the end. Graham Calhoun- Plymouth 39-0 Aaron Brooke- CMA 27-1 Joe Walker- Mishawaka 24-9 Jeremy Williams- Washington 27-7 Post Time 11:00 am 160- This is a very intriguing race from top to bottom. All of these horses have big wins but also have losses to one another. This race will come down to stamina and technique. Who will be in the top four is the question. I will say that all four horses will come out of the Lexington Race! Donya Harris- Washington 27-10 Ben Kensinger- Mishawaka 2-9 David Sheley- Riley 37-10 Colin Wilson Penn 16-9 Out of the Gate Gabe Hissong CMA VS Donya Harris Washington Dylan Deadmon Bremen vs Colin Wilson Penn Post Time 11:10am 170- The 10th race of the day is wide open. I think I'll grab my mint julep and sit back and watch, which one of these 4 horses want to break away from the field and end upon top. Pretty sure three of the spots will come from the Tampa Bay Derby. Noah Brown Penn 25-6 Jacob Trefren CMA 29-2 James Snyder Triton 30-4 Xavier Ortiz- Wawasee 22-7 Out of the Gates Tecory Gordon Clay vs Xavier Ortiz Wawasee Post Time 11:20am 182- Whichever horse comes out on top here will set themselves up with a great starting gate next week at the Preakness. Those that finish 2-4 will have a lot of work to do to make it to Bellmont. This race could also have great implications on the team race as well. Max Chaffee- Penn 19-1 Michael Boland- CMA 19-0 Blake Davis- Plymouth 17-7 Alex Castro- Wawasee 32-4 Dark Horses Cody Timmerman Mishawaka 19-14 Out of the Gates Blake Davis Plymouth vs Cody Timmerman Mishawaka Post Time 11:30 am 195- A deep weight class here and a stumble out of the gate could lead you down a path of no return head to head with a real Triple Crown Winner (Davidson). Want to start strong and finish strong! Lexington Stake Race prepared these four horses to move on. Rockne Hurley Penn 22-4 Jonathon Thomas Adams 33-6 Garrett Sandefer Mishawaka 14-4 Aaron Williamnowski- St Joe 30-8 Post Time 11:30 220- A good horse got a bad draw and is going home early. This will have implications on the team race, a good post for next weekend. NAte LaFree Plymouth 34-3 Casey Conery- St Joe 7-5 Adam Berta Penn 27-5 Anthony Hatter LaVille 23-2 Dark Horse Joe Kuhl CMA 24-7 OUT OF THE GATE Berta Penn vs Kuhl CMA Perish Wawasee vs Conery ST. JOE Post Time 11:40 am 285- Down to the last race of the day, final post of the afternoon. Its been a long day and I hope everyone sticks around for a great race of upperclassman horses. Two horses have never lost a race this year who is going to leave with the title. The top 4 horses only have 9 losses combined on the year. Isaiah McWilliams Washington 38-0 Elisha Tipping Wawasee 29-2 Alex Faulkner Mishawaka 29-7 Alex Cartwright Laville 25-0 Dark Horse Yehezquel DeVault Penn 24-15 OUT OF THE GATES DeVault Penn vs Tipping Wawasee First of all I do not condone gambling in anyway shape or form. Thought it would be fun to reference the great wrestling we have up north. Hope everyone enjoys. And if you do not like my predictions on things so be it. I am not perfect or a rankings guy. Please prove me wrong! Looking forward to the Regional this weekend.
  50. 7 points
    UncleJimmy

    Confession Time

    Great post Kookie (I assume you got permission from MattyB to post even tho you didn't put your name on it!..I kid of course MattyB) To piggyback off some of the thoughts above, all of which are fantastic and got me to add my own, I never participated in the sport and knew nothing of it like Kookie, but got hooked exactly 5 years ago next week when Jr decided he wanted to go to Middle School state. Was hooked instantly. Fast forward to now and this is my 1st year of not having a "skin in the game" so to speak for the state series run. I miss it immensely, more than anything else in this year of 1st's as an empty nester. The anticipation, the nervousness, the drawing up of imaginary bracket scenario's for the ticket round, watching Jr get in the zone as the week progresses to Sat, worrying about every little red mark that pops up on the skin or every sniffle as that was my worst fear was that skin fungus or sickness would rear it's ugly head at this time of year, the intensity buildup as the stakes are raised in each subsequent level of advancement, the exhilaration of seeing the hand raised and even the agony of defeat as that is when character comes out. We can argue about class/wrestlebacks etc but this time of year was the best, for a large part because it's setup as it is. Whether your child gets to the bank, or gets 4th and moves on to the next round of regional/SS, the bonds and memories are priceless..because you know what these kids have done to compete in the sport of wrestling. Good luck and good health to everybody. May the best kid win, but if they don't hey there's always wrestlebacks!, but if they don't, they are still your kid and your champion. Enjoy the ride..savor the moment.
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